New DMO pickups in the 40th Anniversary Custom 24

It took me about a week of playing it every day with various tones and adjusting it up and down until I found the spot I liked the best.
Time well spent. I wonder how many folks are too hasty with swapping pickups (or even guitars) because of not doing what you did. The effect of raising/lowering the pickup is not subtle. It’s profound. I usually have them flush with the mounting rings. That’s fairly low. Then the sound becomes more ‘acoustic’, meaning the pickup acts more like a microphone that takes the acoustic sound of the guitar and converts it to an electric signal. And that’s all about the instrument’s subtle nuances being picked up. Having the pickup close to the strings makes the sound less about the guitar and more about the strings and the pickup itself; the specific acoustic nuances of the guitar get drowned out. That’s not always bad, I mean if you use a lot of effects and/or a ton of gain with dropped tunings then a strong, clear signal from the guitar is more important. I love going straight into the amp and having the pickups flush with the mounting rings brings out the best of my guitars. Well, to my ears at least.
 
Time well spent. I wonder how many folks are too hasty with swapping pickups (or even guitars) because of not doing what you did. The effect of raising/lowering the pickup is not subtle. It’s profound. I usually have them flush with the mounting rings. That’s fairly low. Then the sound becomes more ‘acoustic’, meaning the pickup acts more like a microphone that takes the acoustic sound of the guitar and converts it to an electric signal. And that’s all about the instrument’s subtle nuances being picked up. Having the pickup close to the strings makes the sound less about the guitar and more about the strings and the pickup itself; the specific acoustic nuances of the guitar get drowned out. That’s not always bad, I mean if you use a lot of effects and/or a ton of gain with dropped tunings then a strong, clear signal from the guitar is more important. I love going straight into the amp and having the pickups flush with the mounting rings brings out the best of my guitars. Well, to my ears at least.
I couldn't agree more
 
I could see the 40th Anniversary pickups eventually trickling down to the Core Custom 24 range, especially now that the Core 85/15 set is now standard in the S2 Custom 24. It would be a way for the gap between S2 and Core to be opened up a little more.
 
Now they will use them in the Custom 24. While the 85/15 pickups weren’t everyone’s favorite, the DMO in this video doesn’t really feel like much of an upgrade to me—but that’s just my personal take.

 
Time well spent. I wonder how many folks are too hasty with swapping pickups (or even guitars) because of not doing what you did. The effect of raising/lowering the pickup is not subtle. It’s profound. I usually have them flush with the mounting rings. That’s fairly low. Then the sound becomes more ‘acoustic’, meaning the pickup acts more like a microphone that takes the acoustic sound of the guitar and converts it to an electric signal. And that’s all about the instrument’s subtle nuances being picked up. Having the pickup close to the strings makes the sound less about the guitar and more about the strings and the pickup itself; the specific acoustic nuances of the guitar get drowned out. That’s not always bad, I mean if you use a lot of effects and/or a ton of gain with dropped tunings then a strong, clear signal from the guitar is more important. I love going straight into the amp and having the pickups flush with the mounting rings brings out the best of my guitars. Well, to my ears at least.

I couldn't disagree more by recourse on rules of electric fields and magnetism.
Please tell us which magnetically reactive part of wood emits messurable changes in the magnetic field!
And it won't be the trussrod. The neck needs to be stiff: first tuning stability, second supporting sustain. If the neck would move additionally to the strings, interferences would extinguish the liberate, by hitting the string, amplitude of the string(s). Vibratoeffect and loss of sustain.
And the body? Solidbodies behave like frozen fish. The bridges are the only relevant spot for vibrations into the body. But irrelevant to vibrate to influence the pickup. Neither semi-hollow- nor hollowbody bodies influence the electro-magnetic field of their mounted pickups.
An absolute different talk are acoustic guitars, with the body as the elementary part of emitting sound.

Returning to electrics! Fully agreed to your statement: The distance of the pickup to the strings is elemantary. Such as the respective inductivity of the pickup. The closer the distance the higher the density of the magnetic field.
The closer the pickups, the louder they are (up to 30%) - combined with an increasing amount of disharmonic overtones. Additionally the strings vibrate uneven and unround, and the string will sound undifferentiated. Some pickup winders argue that perhaps the octave purity will suffer, too. In terms of singlecoils common knowledge tells this 'Stratitis'.
Humbuckers are by its construction more resistant to 'Stratitis'.

Bringing more distance between strings and pickups changes ONLY the magnetic field, which the vibrating string affects. It's weaker, the whole amplified electric guitar will likely sound less loud. Maybe the string separation is a little bit articulate.

A magnetic pickup is not a microphone for wood. There isn't, by its nature of wood, an electro magnetic impuls and impact which influences the pickup.
Even bridge mounted piezos won't be affected by the sound of the wood. My pure piezo sound of my Parker Fly Deluxe doesn't sound typical basswood, and my Linus Custom Thinline doesn't like maple. Both have Fishman piezo systems. Same string company and gauge, same number of frets, they differ slightly in the scale 25.5 to 25.25".

I absolutely don't contradict, that your guitar sounds best for you with lowered pickups.
You can personally believe what you want, physics aren't part of confession.

But electro-acoustic scientific research came to a different conclusion.

I contradict your justification.
 
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Now they will use them in the Custom 24. While the 85/15 pickups weren’t everyone’s favorite, the DMO in this video doesn’t really feel like much of an upgrade to me—but that’s just my personal take.

The 85/15's have a little more treble response which I prefer. It first helps the split coil sounds to have that quack. Also for lead guitar, the leads will cut through better. Granted it's not a big change and some eq change on your amp are pedal board and you most likely won't notice any difference.
 
Alnico 2… low output… flat EQ?

Looks like a PAF… sounds like a PAF…

Moving forward by going back.
 
the pickup acts more like a microphone that takes the acoustic sound of the guitar and converts it to an electric signal. And that’s all about the instrument’s subtle nuances being picked up.

Nonsense.

The pickups are just sensing the strings with a weaker and probably less stable part of their magnetic field.
 
When I did my factory visit a couple of weeks ago, this was one of the changes I made in my PS spec. I was able to specify the DMO pickups in it. They don't officially have it as an option at this point but since they released them in this limited run 40th anniversary guitar, they let me choose them for my PS build. I am looking forward to hearing how they do in my guitar when it is done. I won't know until some time late next year. They may have them in other models by then.
What was it about the DMOs that made you make the switch for your PS? (Also, if you don't mind sharing a few of your specs, what wood(s), etc did you select for pairing with the DMOs?)
 
What was it about the DMOs that made you make the switch for your PS? (Also, if you don't mind sharing a few of your specs, what wood(s), etc did you select for pairing with the DMOs?)
I wanted a hotter set of 57/08s in it. I have a couple of sets in PRS guitars. They made them hotter for a few years then went back to the lower output. They wouldn't wind them hotter to match a set I put in my 594 so I originally decided to go with 59/09s. The DMO pickups sit right between the 57/08 and 59/09 for output. I liked that idea. I was a little afraid the 59/09 may be a little hotter than I wanted but they were closer to what I had asked for. I also wanted them covered but they can't do that now that they use squabbins for the 59/09.

Here is the link to my post in the thread I created about the build where I put the specs in. I ended up going with the bone nut and I went with a two piece top because the one piece tops they had were not that great.

 
They will not. I had a couple of questions around that for my build. They used to do things like putting covers on the 59/09 pickups. Now that they use the squabbins for the 59/09 that is no longer an option. I wanted to go that route and since the bobbins are different now they can't do it.
I also asked about winding a set of 57/08 pickups hotter, to match the ones I put in my 594 during the short time they were winding them hotter. The wouldn't do that either.
You need to find a round bobbin 5909 and cover it then send it to them to use for your build.
 
I realized the 85/15 DM pickups were updated to the 85/15 TCI pickups around 2020. The TCI has a little more open top end which are on my 2024 Custom 24. I prefer them over the DM version as the single coil has more of a Fender sound and the neck pickup is a little more open sounding.

Even though they updated to the DMO pickups i have little interest in them as I love my current pickups.
 
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