New CAB Finish...who else has it? What do you think?

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  1. ElrytNamrogo

    ElrytNamrogo My name be scrambled

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    After having a few weeks with the new 35th Anniversary Custom 24, I'm convinced there is something special about this new finish, and wanted to see if it's just in my head or if anybody else is able to chime in with their own personal experience.

    From what I'm able to gather, the new finish is nitro sprayed over a very thin poly base coat. This would be my first experience with nitro-anything, so this is all new to me.

    First thing I noticed is that (at least in my opinion) there's quite a bit of visual difference. A lot of it is nearly impossible to photograph, so I'll do my best to put it into words. To me, reflections are sharper and cleaner. The nitro top coat seems a bit smoother and glass-like to me when it comes to how it reflects light and mirrored objects. I have four other core models to compare it to....a 2008 Custom 22, a 2012 Custom 24, a 2015 HBII, and a 2018 WL 24-08. When almost-obsessively comparing my "older" guitars under different lighting settings, it's almost as if the different layers of poly are kinda visible, or create a certain look to them that's different than this new finish. Of course, it's nothing negative on either side, just something I noticed. Also, I noticed some of the inherent visual qualities of nitro with the new one too. Specifically, little microscopic points where it looks like the nitro settled into small pockets of the poly base coat. Again, absolutely nothing negative about this....it wouldn't be at all noticeable if you didn't nerd out like I do and closely examine the guitar, specifically looking for differences. I've noticed that nitro does this on guitars that are fully finished in it, so it came as no surprise to me.

    Next thing I noticed was weight. Man, is this thing light....lighter than any of my solid bodies. Now, the only one that I really have to fairly compare it to would be my 2012 Custom 24, being it's the closest in build - my Custom 22 and 24-08 both have rosewood necks - but the CU24 is at PTC right now getting some work done, so I cannot directly compare it yet. That being said, I can say with a fair amount of confidence that it's absolutely the lightest of the three solid-bodied guitars. It also has a smoother, less tacky feel to the surface, as well....incredibly smooth up and down the neck, more so than my 2012 Custom 24 (my only other guitar with a finished neck.)

    Another thing is the resonance. I cannot express enough how much differently this one resonates from my other guitars, hollowbody included. There is a definitive open-airiness to it that I just hadn't experienced before. Is this something common with nitro? I feel like it must be, none of my other guitars resonate acoustically like this one. Notes are incredibly clear and almost breath-like. Needless to say, an absolute joy to play and hear. There's almost more woodiness to them than even my HBII, like the notes ring in the body of the guitar longer and more freely. I know I probably sound ridiculous, but this is what my ears hear. I also feel like I get more vibration in the body than the HBII....it's kinda crazy, because I never would have thought this to be the case. Now, I'm absolutely not trying to take anything away from the HBII, just trying to do my best to compare the two....the HBII DEFINITELY has it's own thing going on and has a multitude of different qualities to it's acoustic voice, as well.

    Anyways, this is my awkwardly-worded attempt at trying to share my thoughts on this new finish and what inherent qualities I have found with it.

    Anybody else have one of the new ones? Have any of you experienced noticeable differences you can share?
     
    #1 ElrytNamrogo, Jan 8, 2020
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  2. ElrytNamrogo

    ElrytNamrogo My name be scrambled

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    A few images, because why not...

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  3. Black Plaid

    Black Plaid just another Alan

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    The finish is something that will help the wood express itself better.

    While the new finish is no doubt the best at doing this that PRS has ever done, what I think you have there are some very special pieces of wood.

    ps; Stunning guitar!
     
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  4. mark cassidy

    mark cassidy New Member

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    Simply. Effing. Gorgeous.
     
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  5. ElrytNamrogo

    ElrytNamrogo My name be scrambled

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    Thank you!

    Yeah, I was thinking that as well....about the specific pieces of wood selected for this particular model. It's hard to tell if what I'm hearing and feeling are the inherent qualities of the wood, the new finish, or a combination of the two. I'm sure, of course, it's the later....

    Another thing I did when trying to compare the different guitars was prop the guitar up on my knee and get my ear next to the upper horn of the guitar. For me, this has always helped get an idea of how the notes ring through the body of the guitar (and I just like the way it sounds :p). Doing this allows me to hear the vibrations in the bridge and neck, as well. Again, the newer guitar sounded more airy, allowing a more free resonance - if that makes any sense. Before I got this one, my WL 24-08 seemed to take the cake on this test....although the HBII was a strong contender. But, those are quite different models to be comparing considering build, woods, hardware, ect.

    Thank you! I really feel PRS went to town with this specific run, giving them fantastic tops and backs. All I've seen have been drop dead gorgeous. Needless to say, when I saw this one and then played it, I was hooked - and I was not even close to being the market of buying a new guitar.
     
  6. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    That is one rad guitar!
     
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  7. gioforce76

    gioforce76 Bartender to the stars

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    That looks beautiful !!!! My custom 22s and McCarty are from around 2001-2004 what were they using them for finishes ? Anyone know ?
     
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    Parralax view New Member

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    My 04 McCarty is obviously poly. Unless they were specials, I think that they all were. My luthier confirmed it when he fixed a ding I put in the lower bout.
     
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  9. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Dayum that's hot!
     
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  10. ElrytNamrogo

    ElrytNamrogo My name be scrambled

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    Thanks!!! The lighting the photos were taken in was kinda yellow. In natural or white light, the grain pops A LOT more. Plus, it still has that "new guitar" smell! It's a bit different than my others that I bought brand new, probably due to the finish type.

    I'm not entirely sure, but like Parralx view had said, probably poly. I don't know, did PRS ever use "acrylic"? Or is that the same thing? I know almost nothing when it comes to finishes and clear coats.

    Might be a good stand-alone thread topic....discussing different finish types with photos of the various finishes?

    This is actually one thing I was thinking about. About three months ago, a glass slide fell maybe four inches off a box and landed on the top of my 24-08, putting a small ding in the top. As I've mentioned in past threads, dings don't bother me too much, but this one kinda stung a bit so I had it repaired.

    I'm wondering, if and when a ding happens to this one, and I decide I want it repaired, would a different approach need to be taken considering it's two different types of finish?

    Thanks! I'm excited to use it next weekend at our first show since it was purchased!
     
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  11. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    It’s the same finish they use on Private Stocks, and it rocks in all kinds of ways. Yes, it sounds different, for whatever reason. My PS guitars made me a believer in the finish affecting the tone.

    I ordered one of the new Core McCartys for that very reason.

    Gorgeous guitar, BTW!!
     
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  12. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

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    what’s with the reverse pickup?

     
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  13. ElrytNamrogo

    ElrytNamrogo My name be scrambled

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    Awesome! I'm guessing you opted for the classic McCarty, being you have a couple 594's? I wonder when those will start shipping.

    My local shop doesn't carry a whole lot of PRS guitars, maybe anywhere between ten and fifteen. One thing they always do have, though, are plenty of 594's. So maybe when they get in some of the newer models in, I'll really be able to sit down with more-similar models (compared to what I have) and try my best to compare. :D

    PRS has been doing this for a while now, from what I've seen. I'm not sure why or what specifically dictates which pickups get switched, but the first time I noticed it was on the 24-08 models. Then, the Special 22 Semi-Hollow also did it. All of the 35th Anniversary Custom 24's I've seen have had the pickups set this way.

    Whatever the reason is for switching it, I can dig it. The neck pickup sounds phenomenal, especially split at about 80% volume.
     
  14. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Yup. I love the 594s, but I miss my classic McCarty, and now I’ll have one with the CAB finish? Count me in!
     
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  15. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    The first pic looks like the guitar is wet. Looks different to me.

    I actually put my ear on the top horn to see how it resonates. I thought I was the only one that did that!!

    Bitchin guitar!!!
     
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