I ran my Kemper through the return on my Custom 50 combo.
When I thought about one of these, the sticking point for me, was that I had the AA3 for less than $400, and the AA12 for a little more, already in house, and they offer a bunch of amps plus almost all needed effects. So unless the Iridium tone was a significant step up, then overall it was a step backwards. And, while it sounded pretty good, I didn't think it was necessarily a step up in tone.
It isn't. Bot OP was very clear about simplicity. This is very, VERY simple
Totally agree with that. I'd just have a hard time giving up all the extra stuff (basically a whole rig once amplified) vs. more simple but now you have to build the rest of the rig around it. AA may feel the opposite though, so your point is on point.
I'd agree with that. Tonex seems on par with kemper and better. And that is saying something from a kemper player
So you're saying I need one...
The glib answer is - yes. I’ll very likely either do the Tonex or a pedal. Thanks for recommending some. The little Mesa does a fine sparkling clean and fat clean, so pedal(s) are a viable option.
You Can Use The BE OD Deluxe Pedal With Your Fryette. It Will Also Sound Great With Your Current Rig. If You Are Wanting A List Of Pedals For Those Desired Sounds I Can Get You Several More But The Two I Already Gave Are Tough To Beat In All Truth. You Mention the Tonex And The Pedal In This Post I Am Responding To And Those Avenues Are Two Very Different Avenues. Not Bad Ones, Simply Different Ones So I Am Not Entirely Clear On What Direction You Are Really Wanting To Take....(You Also May Not Know That Answer Either And That Is Ok). I Want To Know So I Can Best Help You. If You Need Multiple Scenarios In Many Directions I Can Do That Too! I Just Don't Want To Take You In A Direction You Are Not Wishing To Go If That Makes Sense.
I am virtually all low volume at least for now. That happens 3 ways most frequently:
I don’t know yet is pretty close. I’m very new to playing. There is a fantastic community of long time players here, whom I have a lot in common with regarding my favorite music and tones (60’s thru 90’s, late 70’s to mid 80’s being my favorite decade). I started this thread and a couple of others both to plan my next moves, but mostly to learn from the folks here. Questions like the BE through the Fryette are really just “I wonder if that will work?” Thank you for the suggestions on pedals. I don’t want to start from scratch trying things.You Can Use The BE OD Deluxe Pedal With Your Fryette. It Will Also Sound Great With Your Current Rig. If You Are Wanting A List Of Pedals For Those Desired Sounds I Can Get You Several More But The Two I Already Gave Are Tough To Beat In All Truth. You Mention the Tonex And The Pedal In This Post I Am Responding To And Those Avenues Are Two Very Different Avenues. Not Bad Ones, Simply Different Ones So I Am Not Entirely Clear On What Direction You Are Really Wanting To Take....(You Also May Not Know That Answer Either And That Is Ok). I Want To Know So I Can Best Help You. If You Need Multiple Scenarios In Many Directions I Can Do That Too! I Just Don't Want To Take You In A Direction You Are Not Wishing To Go If That Makes Sense.
Could you do me a favor please? Get (or use, if you already have) a phone app to tell you how many dB you're playing at in your "usual" situation. The reason I ask is simple: I've found it much more gratifying to play at low volumes through a modeler. As much as even the PS (which we both have) can tame an amp to "wife is asleep 2 rooms away" volume, IMO, that doesn't sound as good as a modeler at those low volumes.
I will measure this weekend, sounds like fun. My rough guess is 75 db most of the time, or a bit less. I bet I only get to 80 or 85 db once in a while when Mrs. AA is out or making her own noise, and usually when I’m on dirty clean whacking a chord to try and see exactly where EOB is. A lot of what you mentioned is why I most frequently play the Dream through monitors, plus a single power switch to turn on the board, mixer and monitors. Kind of why I keep coming back to the tonex. It will fit on my board (and I’ll go from spacious to cramped), it *seems* the least fiddly of the modeler/capture options, maybe. Find amp captures you like ( granted, by sifting through 10’s of thousands….), get clean, EOB and dirty captures of the amp, put ‘em on Tonex, repeat a couple of times and you have what you need. I’ll likely never capture anything myself. Maybe once to understand the process. Play with the tonex as your amp into monitors, Fryette or Mesa into a cab or headphones. All at $400 plus tax or less. It seems a no brainer? As long as it really sounds close to good or better. The downside to me is that my current space is not at all conducive to plugging into my laptop. It seems like once 2 or 3 primary amps worth of captures are loaded, one would be good to go though.
I've read a lot about it, and agree with your assessment. If I get one, I'll be looking for some M type profiles and will turn you on to some good ones. I've really been thinking about it lately but want to get the Silver Sky working and give the HDRX20 a full workout with single coils before I decide on my next purchase.
Did you go into the global eq section in the software? It’s a must. Tames the fizziness that the Katana is known for.
Thanks Pop! I couldn’t make the like button do the Haha emoji on my phone. You don’t happen to be around the corner in the San Francisco / Sacramento CA area are you?@aamefford I Hear Everything You Are Saying And I Get It. I Also Agree With What @DreamTheaterRules Is Saying And From Where He Is Coming From. My Hope Is You Getting All Of What You Are After Right The First Time And Still Have Room To Grow In The Various Directions You Already Operate Within. Based On Your Equipment You Already Have And The Things You Expressed That Are Important To You I Would Say A Pedal Like The Friedman BE-OD Deluxe Or Similar Would Be Your Least Expensive Option. In The Overall BIG Picture A Modeler Would Be A Great Solution For You. I Would Suggest The Kemper For This For A Lot Of Reasons. You Could Easily And Effortlessly Get The Sounds You Want And Set And Forget And Have A Plethora Of Options In All Kinds Of Directions Going Forward If You Ever Chose To Do So. The "Pedal" Costs Below Your Budget Amount (Awesome!) And Of Course The Kemper Is Above That Amount. It Comes Down To What You Want To Do Long Term And What You Are Willing To Spend On This Purchase...But Also With The Future In Mind. The Tonex Is Not A Bad Choice, But A Safe, Middle Of The Road Choice Imo (Nothing Wrong With That At All).
For Me Personally, If I Wanted Options, Low Volume Quality Sounds, Simplicity AND The Opportunity and Options For Future Growth In Many Directions The Kemper Is My Choice. It Is Solid, It Is Proven And Keeps Getting Better With Age And Updates Over Time (Always Free). If You Lived Around The Corner I Would Simply Have You Come Over And Pick Some Things And Try Them...Take Them Home And Live With Them And Make Your Choice From There To Make Sure You Are Completely Happy With Your Choice.
Love,
Dad
No But Those Two Cities Sound Like They Are A Little Further Away From Each Other Unless Your Name Is Gallo And You Have Some Grapes Growing.
I guess I went there but I will give it another try once I get hold of another one. I really wanted to like that unit.
