My cloudy Private Stock

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  1. flukepete

    flukepete New Member

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    Hi,

    First of all, I'm new here. I'm Pete. I'm a big PRS fan. Over many years, I bought several PRSs, including some Private Stocks, ie, Paul's 28, Violin Guitar. I love the designs, craftsmanship, quality, the sound it rings.. to name a few. I currently live in Thailand, and the past several years I bought PRS guitars in USA, and had them hand-carried over to me.

    The other day, I decided to go through my guitar collections that I acquired over past many years. I was shocked when I opened one of my Private Stock PRSs. It was cloudy all over the top and the back (Please see photos). I, then, opened all other guitars I have, esp, PRS. Luckily, all others remain in good condition as when I left them in the cases.

    As soon as I could, I contacted PTC ([email protected], email I got from visiting PRS website after clicking PTC). I sent the photos of the back of the headstock, front and back of the guitar body to show the cloudy spots (well, not really spots, it's pretty much taken over the whole body). The first few emails we exchanged were basically "what's the serial numbers". I thought it was at the back of the headstock at the top, which a photo of it was sent in the first email. Anyway, the guy insisted that I told him the numbers. I eventually found the COA, scanned and sent to him.

    Now the last reply is about that the cloudiness could happen from high humidities, high temperature, exposed to moisture. I have over 20 PRSs, and many of them have Poly finish just like this cloudy PS. They all sit in the cases in the same room. The last email also raised another problem that this PS has a Brazilian rosewood neck, and it was sold in USA, therefore, there was no CITES document. I'm a bit shocked here though. This PS guitar was made back in 2006 when Brazilian rosewood wasn't restricted yet, therefore, it, of course, wouldn't have such documents.

    My question now is what do I do??? How do I get this ugly cloudy top fixed? It seems like the guy from PTC whom I exchanged massages with is advising he can't help, and so far I don't see the effort whether he was trying to help at all.

    Can anyone please suggest? Can't PTC PRS really help? Honestly, I want a perfect job, and to me, this is PRS, I wish PRS will help me fix it.

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  2. markie

    markie 11Top's personal Chauffeur

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    Hello my old friend. Good to see you here. I assume PRS does not want to get involved with a CITES problem.........

    Colortone makes a fine finishing compound that works for removing very light scratches / defects. I have used it. This might work for you Pete.
     
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  3. flukepete

    flukepete New Member

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    Hi Mark,
    It’s been a long time! Thank you very much for your suggestion. But I think mayb the pictures can’t explain enough.. the cloudiness is under the clear coat. I think the only fix is a complete refinish. It’s a pity.

    Btw, can the custom really tell what wood the neck is?
     
  4. markie

    markie 11Top's personal Chauffeur

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    Customs might be able to tell ................... which would really suck!
     
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    alantig Sassyless pants

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    I'm not an expert, but I don't think they have to be able to tell, they only have to suspect. I think it's up to the shipper to provide the documentation to allow it through.
     
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    flukepete New Member

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    Thank you.
    Nonetheless, I don't quite understand since the guitar was made years before the BRW restrictions, why would customs still have problems with it?
     
  7. 11top

    11top Cousin Eddie's cousin

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    Hey Pete! Long time! Sorry to hear of your problem. It’s a beautiful early PS.


    How’s my old Paul’s 28?
     
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    flukepete New Member

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    Still in the case, but already checked if there was any problem with it.. as expected there shouldn't be any since it's nitro. This P28 has the best looking top of all I ever seen, too.. I'm so proud.. LOL

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  9. gush

    gush New Member

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    Great question.
     
  10. Big Mike

    Big Mike Soon to be on a McCarty hunt..

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    It's CITES it doenst have to make sense.

    Good luck in your resolution. I have zero ideas. Beautiful guitars though.
     
  11. flukepete

    flukepete New Member

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    After a long discussion, PTC quoted $1500 (plus shipping)... Should I proceed?
     
  12. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

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    that’s their way of saying they’d rather you didn’t?

     
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    flukepete New Member

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    oh.. really.. crap.. someone wanted to buy this guitar, that's why I opened the case to check it.. now how am I going to sell this???
     
  14. 11top

    11top Cousin Eddie's cousin

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    They have no concerns shipping it back to you? :confused:


    And selling it shouldn’t be a problem. I’ve got $2,400 ready to go! :p
     
  15. flukepete

    flukepete New Member

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    Shipping to and from PRS will be within the USA, so they don't have to worry.

    About Selling it, I was offered $6000 before finding out THIS!!

    Thank you very much for your best offer.. LOL
     
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  16. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    That sounds about right. I would.
     
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    ]-[@n$0Ma☩!© Der Hans der kann's

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    I beg to differ, Pete. The amber-colored Brazilian McCarty I sold you is the best-looking top of all time. :)
     
  18. 11top

    11top Cousin Eddie's cousin

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    Oh...............so you're saying you're a better pusher than I am, huh? :rolleyes:

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  19. pac90

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    Get another quote.

    Id have a go with methylated spirits and a bottle of whisky, for free, if you pay shipping.
     
  20. flukepete

    flukepete New Member

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    I decided if it's really $1500, I would just keep it here, have it carried over there and back with the domestic shipping will already cost me more than $1,000. A friend already named this finish Cloudy Tortoise... I'll live with it, sad, but have to.

    Hans, that's another great looking top PRS, too!

    LOL

    get another quote from who?
     

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