Mr. Fixit Strikes Again. For Real!

DO NOT BUY SAMSUNG! I can't say that enough or loud enough. I put all new Samsung appliances in my kitchen almost 10 years ago. I will never buy their junk again. I am about to tear into the stove to fix it. It needs at least one new infinity switches and possibly a whole new main board if I can get one. The ice machine in the refrigerator is total junk and has been turned off since about year 2. It has a huge ice chunk in it that I am not even sure I can get out without turning the whole thing off and letting it warm up. There are many documented cases of issues with these things.

Do some research and look for trends in different brands and models. I trusted too much in a brand name and paid for it.
Preaching to the choir here Sir..
 
I grew up in a poor household. We had to learn how to fix things because we couldn't afford to replace them or pay someone to fix them for us. This was all way before the internet and YouTube. Those skills have been something I have been very grateful for in my life, even though it sucked in the moment of when you broke something and had to figure out how it worked to figure out what broke. With the internet and YouTube it is a lot easier now.

One example is the battery in my wife's car. I took one look at it and knew it was going to take some time to figure out how to get it out of where it was when I needed to replace it. I decided to look on YouTube to see if someone had posted a video. They did! I watched the video and I am not sure that it even took 5 minutes to get it out after that. I guarantee that if I had not watched that video I would have spent an hour figuring it out and would have swore like a sailor.

Thankfully I have found some information on these appliances online. That is one and only one bonus of them having so many issues, they are well documented. One thing that gets me on this stove thing is that one of the infinity switches is going to cost me at least $100 just for the part. If I didn't have the ability to change this out myself I would have a service call and labor on top of that.

I really hate planned obsolescence. They make stuff hard to fix to try to deter us from fixing it ourselves. They also make it hard to get the parts. It definitely is frustrating.
The fridge we had before our current one was a pike of junk.

One of the many things that pi$$ed me off was the main door hinge. It broke in less than a year. I took it all apart and discovered the expanding foam they fill the door with hadn't expanded enough to fill the corner so the weight of the door was being held by the plastic hinge mount.

I made a new hinge mount out of steel, drilled a hole in the bottom of door to finish filling it with foam.

It worked but you could see the repair. Not cool

None of the handles would stay tight and screws that held track for slide out freezer drawer would back out enough that drawer wouldn't close.

All enough to drive me to furious.

Had it two years before I got rid of it.
 
We will be buying new washer and dryer this year and I'm not looking forward to buying new junk.
Seriously, the washer and dryer I got when we moved into our first house in 1980 lasted at least 20 years, and then only the washer went. The dryer was fine for 25 years.

Try and get that kind of result today without spending an arm and a leg on Sub-Zero or Miele.

I can report that I've gotten 17 years out of my Dyson Ball vacuum. Unfortunately only 4 years out of a Dyson heater/air filter.
 
Seriously, the washer and dryer I got when we moved into our first house in 1980 lasted at least 20 years, and then only the washer went. The dryer was fine for 25 years.

Try and get that kind of result today without spending an arm and a leg on Sub-Zero or Miele.

I can report that I've gotten 17 years out of my Dyson Ball vacuum. Unfortunately only 4 years out of a Dyson heater/air filter.
My auxiliary Whirlpool refrigerator is going on 25 years...
As far as washers and dryers, Paykel and Fischer is what you want; if you want serviceable.
 
Hits close to home. Monday morning the week of Christmas we woke up to no heat and a cold house. Heat pump system. Ecobee thermostat is black and unresponsive. Circuit breaker hasn’t tripped and we have power. What the dealio?

Because of the holidays and trouble calls from the temp dropping over the weekend, no one could come out till Friday. Perfect time for a week of overnight temps falling below freezing.

Did my best to troubleshoot various things with the help of YouTube. Nothing. Resetting the breaker, even though it hadn’t tripped, would get it kick back on maybe 20% of the time.

I kept a small fire going in our small fireplace that’s really just designed for mood fires. You have to constantly watch them. We set up shop (air mattress and sleeping bags) downstairs so we could sleep near the only heat source.

Friday comes along. The technician arrives, does some tests, and says “yeah, nothing wrong with your heating system. I bet you have a problem with your breaker.” Sure enough the 60A breaker is starting to disintegrate internally. The lower temps were causing the aux heating coil to kick on. And since the breaker wasn’t able to deliver 240V consistently anymore, the system would shut down to protect itself.

Go figure. I was happy the bill was as small as it was, considering. And more importantly to sleep in my own bed.
 
Hits close to home. Monday morning the week of Christmas we woke up to no heat and a cold house. Heat pump system. Ecobee thermostat is black and unresponsive. Circuit breaker hasn’t tripped and we have power. What the dealio?

Because of the holidays and trouble calls from the temp dropping over the weekend, no one could come out till Friday. Perfect time for a week of overnight temps falling below freezing.

Did my best to troubleshoot various things with the help of YouTube. Nothing. Resetting the breaker, even though it hadn’t tripped, would get it kick back on maybe 20% of the time.

I kept a small fire going in our small fireplace that’s really just designed for mood fires. You have to constantly watch them. We set up shop (air mattress and sleeping bags) downstairs so we could sleep near the only heat source.

Friday comes along. The technician arrives, does some tests, and says “yeah, nothing wrong with your heating system. I bet you have a problem with your breaker.” Sure enough the 60A breaker is starting to disintegrate internally. The lower temps were causing the aux heating coil to kick on. And since the breaker wasn’t able to deliver 240V consistently anymore, the system would shut down to protect itself.

Go figure. I was happy the bill was as small as it was, considering. And more importantly to sleep in my own bed.
I first learned about a year ago that breakers can be bad even when the switch is still functioning properly. I had encountered breakers that had gone bad where the switches would no longer hold in the on position, but I had never seen one where the switch still locks fine, but the breaker itself was bad. I was helping an elderly friend and it turned out she had 4 bad breakers, all of which the switch still worked fine on. To top it off, the type of breaker it was, cost ~$75 each! All the breakers I have ever replaced have been about $15-20 each. I was floored when I saw that price and had to tell her that she needed to fork out $300 for parts. At least she did not have to pay an electrician as well as I did it all for free. I did tell her though, that she should pay an electrician to give the house a once over as I thought 4 bad breakers may be due to some other issues. She has yet to do so and it is beyond my pay grade/skill level ;~(( Glad you got off on the low end of the cost for that situation!
 
I first learned about a year ago that breakers can be bad even when the switch is still functioning properly. I had encountered breakers that had gone bad where the switches would no longer hold in the on position, but I had never seen one where the switch still locks fine, but the breaker itself was bad. I was helping an elderly friend and it turned out she had 4 bad breakers, all of which the switch still worked fine on. To top it off, the type of breaker it was, cost ~$75 each! All the breakers I have ever replaced have been about $15-20 each. I was floored when I saw that price and had to tell her that she needed to fork out $300 for parts. At least she did not have to pay an electrician as well as I did it all for free. I did tell her though, that she should pay an electrician to give the house a once over as I thought 4 bad breakers may be due to some other issues. She has yet to do so and it is beyond my pay grade/skill level ;~(( Glad you got off on the low end of the cost for that situation!
Wasn't a Federal panel, was it?
 
My trade calls them lawsuit panels...
No one will work on them; replace only.
I will take a look next time I am over there! I will not replace her whole panel though, I will let her know to have a pro do that ;~)) Thanks for the heads up! Does it generally use the QO series GFCI/AFCI type breakers? I think that is what they were. Had the pigtail white wire permanently attached.
 
I will take a look next time I am over there! I will not replace her whole panel though, I will let her know to have a pro do that ;~)) Thanks for the heads up! Does it generally use the QO series GFCI/AFCI type breakers? I think that is what they were. Had the pigtail white wire permanently attached.
That'd be Square D...
She's good; you're good.
 
I first learned about a year ago that breakers can be bad even when the switch is still functioning properly. I had encountered breakers that had gone bad where the switches would no longer hold in the on position, but I had never seen one where the switch still locks fine, but the breaker itself was bad. I was helping an elderly friend and it turned out she had 4 bad breakers, all of which the switch still worked fine on. To top it off, the type of breaker it was, cost ~$75 each! All the breakers I have ever replaced have been about $15-20 each. I was floored when I saw that price and had to tell her that she needed to fork out $300 for parts. At least she did not have to pay an electrician as well as I did it all for free. I did tell her though, that she should pay an electrician to give the house a once over as I thought 4 bad breakers may be due to some other issues. She has yet to do so and it is beyond my pay grade/skill level ;~(( Glad you got off on the low end of the cost for that situation!
Yeah I hadn’t seen that before. After taking the breaker out, broken and soft pieces of plastic in there around the contacts. And as it was failing it had clearly started to heat up. Melted plastic on the bus bar, and the breaker on the opposite side of the bus had some damage as well. Had both replaced and moved so two high-draw circuits weren’t sharing the same bus space. All-in-all, a productive visit :D
 
My trade calls them lawsuit panels...
No one will work on them; replace only.
By coincidence, our condo board recently had everyone check their electrical panels - required by the insurance carrier no doubt for that very reason.

The condo was built in the '80s; I'm sure the builder put in whatever box was cheapest that day.

If you had a Federal panel you were required to replace it. Mine turned out to be a GE - they said I was OK.
 
I know you're all dying to know the upshot of this little adventure :rolleyes:.

My HVAC guy does a beautiful job and is reasonable in price. He returned my call yesterday; turns out he'd hurt his back the day before, but will be back at work next week. So he'll be coming out to go through the system, inspect everything, replace what needs to be replaced, etc.

Says I should be OK for the interim.
 
I had a breaker go bad in the bottom of my air handler for the heat pump in the last house I had in Ohio. It kind of scared the crap out of us. It got hot and started melting. We could smell it. If you haven't ever smelled one of those old breakers melting, you will never forget the smell. I killed the power to the unit and called the repair man. He pulled it out and it was toast. It was good that I killed the power because it was only a matter of time before it started on fire in there. It was pretty close to that. I actually saw some smoke come out of the unit and that is what made me shut the power off to it. I am glad we were home when it happened.
 
We're lucky. Our house was built in the mid '60's and built like a tank with great USA components. We've owned it for half that time with no electrical problems at all.

But things don't get stressed or updated too much. Here, south of SF, it hasn't been below freezing this season and one of our heating zones still uses the original manual round Honeywell thermostat.
 
By coincidence, our condo board recently had everyone check their electrical panels - required by the insurance carrier no doubt for that very reason.

The condo was built in the '80s; I'm sure the builder put in whatever box was cheapest that day.

If you had a Federal panel you were required to replace it. Mine turned out to be a GE - they said I was OK.
Same here. 80s “contractor special”.
 
Doesn't hurt to put an infrared thermometer on electrical components like a breaker box once in a while.

Heat images can help detect overheated circuits.
That is a really good idea! I will take my infrared camera to my friend's house next time I go over there and take a looksie to see what it says when I am pointing it at the breaker box!! I will do that on my own two boxes as well (one for grid feed, one for solar feed)!!!
 
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