Migraines

Lola, I’m sorry to hear of your ongoing battles with migraines plus the incredible frustration with receiving treatment!

I’ve been suffering from vestibular migraines (VM) every waking moment since Thanksgiving 2017. Started with acute vertigo that lasted for five weeks. It ended my career 3 years ago. I still hope I’ll recover to try again, but things remain challenging. Every moment is some level of pain, pressure, dizziness and nausea. I’m currently looking for my third neurologist. My first so called expert helped initially, but I still had symptoms all the time! Also worked with a vestibular rehabilitation therapist for over a year because I had to re-learn how to walk and do basic things. I still get very dizzy while looking up or bending down. I started with my ENT who first suspected VM. Had numerous tests to rule out Vestibular Neuritis, brain tumors, Meniere’s, etc.

Worst thing my neuro did was put me on Topomax - drastically altered my cognition and basically made me bi-polar - couldn’t get off of that one fast enough! At the first neuro’s suggestion we moved to a smaller town closer to family (To reduce stress, plus I’m very sensitive to noise). Our move was a disaster (13 months and 16 tries) which didn’t help, then the pandemic hit. Such is life!

My second neuro (who recently left the practice) agreed with me to stop using two meds (Nortriptyline, Emgality) and have me try Botox and I’m finally getting some improvement on the severity of my symptoms - down to a level 3 of 10 most days after being around 5-7 levels pre Botox. Avoiding foods with Tyramine has been a mixed bag, leading me to believe it’s not really a relevant trigger. Before the Botox, my symptom levels were so high I couldn’t feel the impact of changing foods - now I can. Taking magnesium glycinate has helped as well.

My triggers in order are: stress, sleep, barometric pressure changes, noise and food. I had undiagnosed sleep apnea for decades which I’ve addressed with a CPAP, now getting 7+ hours of sleep versus 4 hours prior. When I get a cold, my symptoms, especially dizziness, go through the roof. I had Covid recently and nearly went into full vertigo again.

I recently found an excellent book called Victory Over Vestibular Migraine that is very well researched by a Dr Bey in Texas. He goes into detail about not just vestibular migraines but migraines as well. A lot has to do with imbalances on the neurotransmitter chemicals in the brain. Because of this, I learned that a protein powder I used for 4 years may have been a key unknown trigger for my elevated condition. I quit it cold turkey in October, had excruciating withdrawal headaches for 2 weeks but have been better since.

Tension in the jaw and neck muscles can also cause some of these issues. My dentist started working with some minor jaw issues I’ve been diagnosed with a year ago. Had to realign my jaw (we’re talking maybe 1mm) and wear a night appliance and it’s helped reduce tension quite a bit. When I don’t wear the appliance, next day my symptoms are significantly worse. I’ve thought about seeing a TMJ specialist, though I do not have TMJ.

I'm going to try chiropractor and maybe massage therapy again, but it’s expensive. But I still carry a lot of tension in my neck, shoulders and back due to prior issues. I’ve gone through multiple rounds of PT already, including another for a vertigo episode a year ago.

Sorry for the long book, but know you are not alone on your journey back to health!
Know my heart is with you. I sympathize with you every minute into this nightmare.

I was on Maxalt and that was the magic pill at the end of rainbow but then my migraine started stacking on one another. I would just finish one and then another would start. I was running out of medication quickly. Only allowed 12 a month. So my doctor put me on Topamax and I absolutely hate this drug. Dizzy like a ball in a pinball machine, don’t even care if I eat( already a skinny enough) . He’s currently on vacation until February 28th will wait. Meanwhile I will get a hold of my neurologist and ask him his opinion. I am with throwing up, feel lousy, lack energy and am taking too many sick days. You know how the story goes!

Plus….. I have gastritis.
To calm me back to realty I vape. It relaxes me and calms down. It let’s me sleep sporadically.
If you ever want to pm me or just talk pls feel free. We both have serious health situations. Take care❤️

UPDATE:
I have been on this new to me drug Topamax since January 21 and I am starting to feel some relief. I have only had 4 migraines. That’s a god send! The only thing is I have to force myself to eat. This drug just kills my appetite. I see my doctor tomorrow.
 
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My Daughter gets probably 2 a week. she just went on some new ”everyday” medicine, and a new med when she‘s getting the onset of one, but is very costly.
 
My Daughter gets probably 2 a week. she just went on some new ”everyday” medicine, and a new med when she‘s getting the onset of one, but is very costly.
Could you find out if you don’t mind. I have my work benefits. So far so good.
 
My very first one, I had no idea what it was, but I had every symptom in the book. One of the worst experiences of my life.

Fortunately, I've been able to learn my triggers and manage it without prescription meds. I always get auras first, so I know to dose myself with ibuprofen and caffeine and then take it easy for a bit to let it pass.

I have huge gaps between flareups; we're talking a couple years. I've been more sensitive in the last few months for some reason. Have to be careful about my screen time, which I guess is a good thing to do anyway.
 
This thread is very sobering. I had no idea of the degree of suffering. I can’t imagine the pain. I wish you all the best.

It causes wacky cognitive things, too, which is what really freaks me out.

During my first one, getting ready to go to the ER, I couldn't even coordinate myself to get dressed.
I had one sneak up on me a few years ago and I couldn't read. I could see, but it was like I had no idea what reading was.
My most recent one, I didn't recognize brands and products that I was familiar with. Imagine trying to read about a PRS McCarty, but your brain is asking, "Is it PRS? I don't think I've seen that brand. McCarty doesn't sound right."
 
My last migraine i wretched so hard I have floaters in my right eye which are so annoying!
 
Fortunately, I've been able to learn my triggers and manage it without prescription meds. I always get auras first, so I know to dose myself with ibuprofen and caffeine and then take it easy for a bit to let it pass.
It’s worth noting that one persons cure could be another’s poison. The aura is my best early indicator. I can’t take ibuprofen and caffeine or sugar will act as a magnifier for me.
I’d do better eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich. And gobbling a complex salt tablet - I keep SaltStick fastchews handy.
 
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I get migraines too. Thanks for sharing all your observations and solutions. I was brought to the ER twice for it. They give me a "cocktail" of stuff too.

I also used to get really bad nosebleeds, as in the area I'm in looks like a violent murder scene. After a lot of sticking balloons in my nose and cauterizing in my adulthood, they decided to do an embolization. It was a blessing in disguise because they found out that I have brain aneurysm that I am managing now. Just mentioned because I wonder if it had something to do with my migraines.
Thank God they found that brain aneurysm. I have a fear of aneurysms because they are so sudden and dangerous.

Lola, I’m sorry to hear of your ongoing battles with migraines plus the incredible frustration with receiving treatment!

I’ve been suffering from vestibular migraines (VM) every waking moment since Thanksgiving 2017. Started with acute vertigo that lasted for five weeks. It ended my career 3 years ago. I still hope I’ll recover to try again, but things remain challenging. Every moment is some level of pain, pressure, dizziness and nausea. I’m currently looking for my third neurologist. My first so called expert helped initially, but I still had symptoms all the time! Also worked with a vestibular rehabilitation therapist for over a year because I had to re-learn how to walk and do basic things. I still get very dizzy while looking up or bending down. I started with my ENT who first suspected VM. Had numerous tests to rule out Vestibular Neuritis, brain tumors, Meniere’s, etc.

Worst thing my neuro did was put me on Topomax - drastically altered my cognition and basically made me bi-polar - couldn’t get off of that one fast enough! At the first neuro’s suggestion we moved to a smaller town closer to family (To reduce stress, plus I’m very sensitive to noise). Our move was a disaster (13 months and 16 tries) which didn’t help, then the pandemic hit. Such is life!

My second neuro (who recently left the practice) agreed with me to stop using two meds (Nortriptyline, Emgality) and have me try Botox and I’m finally getting some improvement on the severity of my symptoms - down to a level 3 of 10 most days after being around 5-7 levels pre Botox. Avoiding foods with Tyramine has been a mixed bag, leading me to believe it’s not really a relevant trigger. Before the Botox, my symptom levels were so high I couldn’t feel the impact of changing foods - now I can. Taking magnesium glycinate has helped as well.

My triggers in order are: stress, sleep, barometric pressure changes, noise and food. I had undiagnosed sleep apnea for decades which I’ve addressed with a CPAP, now getting 7+ hours of sleep versus 4 hours prior. When I get a cold, my symptoms, especially dizziness, go through the roof. I had Covid recently and nearly went into full vertigo again.

I recently found an excellent book called Victory Over Vestibular Migraine that is very well researched by a Dr Bey in Texas. He goes into detail about not just vestibular migraines but migraines as well. A lot has to do with imbalances on the neurotransmitter chemicals in the brain. Because of this, I learned that a protein powder I used for 4 years may have been a key unknown trigger for my elevated condition. I quit it cold turkey in October, had excruciating withdrawal headaches for 2 weeks but have been better since.

Tension in the jaw and neck muscles can also cause some of these issues. My dentist started working with some minor jaw issues I’ve been diagnosed with a year ago. Had to realign my jaw (we’re talking maybe 1mm) and wear a night appliance and it’s helped reduce tension quite a bit. When I don’t wear the appliance, next day my symptoms are significantly worse. I’ve thought about seeing a TMJ specialist, though I do not have TMJ.

I'm going to try chiropractor and maybe massage therapy again, but it’s expensive. But I still carry a lot of tension in my neck, shoulders and back due to prior issues. I’ve gone through multiple rounds of PT already, including another for a vertigo episode a year ago.

Sorry for the long book, but know you are not alone on your journey back to health!

My heart goes out to you. You are a real fighter. Continue to be strong and I wish you all the best.
 
It’s worth noting that one persons cure could be another’s poison. The aura is my best early indicator. I can’t take ibuprofen and caffeine or sugar will act as a magnifier for me.
I’d do better eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich. And gobbling a complex salt tablet - I keep SaltStick fastchews handy.
Indeed migraines are such a strange thing that what helps one person doesn't help another. Lately when I get the aura, ibuprofen helps me although a few years ago it didn't. I do like the peanut butter and banana sandwich idea :).
 
It’s worth noting that one persons cure could be another’s poison. The aura is my best early indicator. I can’t take ibuprofen and caffeine or sugar will act as a magnifier for me.
I’d do better eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich. And gobbling a complex salt tablet - I keep SaltStick fastchews handy.
Indeed migraines are such a strange thing that what helps one person doesn't help another. Lately when I get the aura, ibuprofen helps me although a few years ago it didn't. I do like the peanut butter and banana sandwich idea :).

Yeah definitely. It's usually overlooked that Migraine is more than just bad headaches. It's a neurological disease that is still fairly mysterious and impacts people in many different ways.
 
Appreciate the well wishes! The chemicals causing the neurotransmitter functions to go haywire is the defining catalyst based on my research. Because migraines start with inflammation of the brain stem, it causes a wide variety of symptoms for everyone. I’ve gone through the gamut of emotional, cognitive, memory, balance impacts which are alarming not just for me, but my wife and son. Some of these medications exacerbate the impact rather than mitigating it. It’s all been a long, drawn out experiment to see what helps and what doesn’t. 10-15 years ago there wasn’t even a diagnosis of VM so directionally things are going to right way.

I recently learned the whey and soy protein powders made me much worse. Since Botox has helped lower my inflammation levels, I can now see and feel the impact of different triggers. This helps determine what causes rebound headaches. I was previously causing my own cascade events and didn’t know it.

There are plenty of structural issues (physical, not chemical) that can also trigger episodes.

Maybe I need to stay at a Holiday Inn Express?

 
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Mine always starts with a little twinge in the right Trigeminal nerve. And then all hell breaks loose!

The different branches are namely the ophthalmic (V1), maxillary (V2), and mandibular (V3) nerves. The ophthalmic nerve is responsible for sensory innervation of the face and skull above the palpebral fissure as well as the eye and portions of the nasal cavity.

Now I know why my eye and nose bothered me during a migraine.
 
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Without being too graphic, if the kind you have are hormonal, you can have too much sex or too little and it will trigger a migraine. If you find the frequency that is right for you, you can keep them at bay.

After reading this, I was going to make a joke about using that one tonight with my wife... but this thread is so sobering I'm not feeling like jokng about anything right now.
I used to get them as a kid, they started tapering off about the time i moved out of my parents house. Coincidence? I think not!
I got them in Jr. High. I think my very last one was my freshman year. They always started with my eyes flashing, zig zaggy patterns right in the center of my vision, that would get worse and worse and then BAM here was the crippling headache. Almost every time I had one I was at school, so they'd take me to the nurses office, give me aspirin and let me lay down in the dark until it went away. The light REALLY bothered me when it happened so they'd turn the lights off. The principle was so cool he had a big nice office and a couple times he'd let me go in his office and lay on his couch.
Where’s the dislike button? I’ve had a few years ago, and they are the worst. I have empathy for you.
Big time. I know how bad it was and I only had them maybe once a month for a couple years.
They have finally put me on my latest medication which is used for grande mal seizures as well as migraines but the side affects at first are nasty. You look like a drunk who has been on an all night bender. Your balance is off. I am doing research on this drug and I don’t like it. When i see my doctor next I am asking him if there is anything else he can put me on the. The side effects belong in Frankenstein’s lab. There are very scary and I don’t want to be subjected to these if I don’t have to be! Some side effects are absolutlely frightening.

May I add that I was suffering anywhere from 20 - 25 migraines a month. All bed ridden being right of controll migraines or in hospital with IV called a migraine “cocktail”.
This is terrible. I mean, how do you work, or play in a band or just LIVE with them being that bad and that often? Really sorry to hear how severe and how frequent these are.

When I went to the doctor for mine, I was 14 or so and they said it was either caused by stress of fatigue. I had absolutely NO stress in my life. But I was playing multiple sports, played ALL the time after school, and was always a night owl, so I stayed up later than I should have for my age. But I was also still growing (rapidly) at that age. Doctor said it was probably just overall fatigue.
This thread is very sobering. I had no idea of the degree of suffering. I can’t imagine the pain. I wish you all the best.
It is. I know what these things did to me as a healthy active young tireless athletic person. They flat knocked me down and I better not even try to get up before it was over. Couldn't see. Lost coordination, etc. Even when I recovered I still would never feel good for the rest of that day. I was very lucky and only had one of them on a game day, but still remember how off I was and my coach asking me if I was sick because I DID NOT have it that day.

I still occasionally get that flashing in my eyes every once in a while and every time I wonder if it's going to happen again but it never has in over 40 years now. I feel bad for anyone who still has them, and especially bad for those of you that have a lot of them. :(
 
Her everyday med is - Topomax
her “onset” med is - Relpax
I am taking Topamax and Maxalt. I need to get off the Topamax because it has taken my appetite away. It’s really difficult for me to gain weight. Thx for your reply.
 
I am taking Topamax and Maxalt. I need to get off the Topamax because it has taken my appetite away. It’s really difficult for me to gain weight. Thx for your reply.
Good luck to you. I hope you find something to help better.
 
This is terrible. I mean, how do you work, or play in a band or just LIVE with them being that bad and that often? Really sorry to hear how severe and how frequent these are.
With this new drug I didn’t give it long enough I was just too impatient. It is actually doing a good job in preventing me from having attacks. I just hate that it’s such a chore to eat. I just force myself with I stuff I really like to eat. It’s a slow process but necessary.
 
I have a close friend (lovely young lady professional photographer) that suffers from ocular migraines. This time of year is especially brutal for her since she does action power sports shoots with snow riders in the mountains (bright sunlight and seriously reflective snow). It also affects her in the summer months at the race tracks and doing outdoor location shoots. My heart goes out to her (as it does to you) knowing how terribly she suffers for keeping so active in her work passion. I don't know what all she takes as far as meds go, she's rather closed lipped about it (I can totally respect that). She often can't even move after a long day behind the lens due to the intense pain.
I really hope you can get through this horrible condition.
 
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