Kemper better than real amps?

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  1. Clashcityrocker

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  2. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

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    since les is apparently out:

    i’m not going all the way to youtube to downvote this.
     
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    RickP Established 1960, Still Not Dead

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    Having been an Axe Fx player since 2011, I’ve heard every possible angle on this controversy. The simple truth of the modeler vs the modeled is yes, no, and it’s six of one / a half dozen of the other. It’s more about the player than it is the equipment.

    I love my modeler, currently the Axe Fx III. It is my gig rig, because it meets my gigging needs. I also have a wall of tube amps, several of which are modeled in the III. When I’m home, I usually play on those. I could swap that around and be just peachy. The modeler is awesome, and there also something inspiring about playing on a tube amp with the glass glowing. For me, it’s never been either/or, any more than I have to choose one type of guitar.

    This question is as unanswerable as “is a Les Paul better than ???” or “is a Strat better than a Tele?” or any of a variety of other intentionally controversial equipment comparisons that are intended to get the Hatfields and McCoys feuding again. I know it’s the internet, I get it. It’s just tired. Sooner or later these content producers are going to have to plow some fresh ground.

    What’s best for you is what you think is best.
     
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  4. DreamTheaterRules

    DreamTheaterRules I'm sailing

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    It's a scam! That's the same exact video I saw 20 years ago, but with the original Line 6 POD in it. All they did was substitute the Kemper in where the POD was in the old video. Yeah, that's it alright. I'm not falling for a banana in the tail pipe!
     
  5. Boogie

    Boogie Zombie Two, DFZ

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    Simply, no. But if you’re willing to compromise, a Kemper makes gigs stupid-simple and sounds fantastic. You didn’t see me selling my amps but I know some who have.
     
  6. Clashcityrocker

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    I've turned on my tube amp once since I got my Kemper stage. The Kemper is better for me because I play it every day if I have time. I never get bored with it. Amps are really just not practical, too loud for the situation and lose their tone when attenuated or master volumed.
     
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    No it's new. This guy talks about Kempers on his channel.
     
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  8. Em7

    Em7 deus ex machina

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    I own three tube amps and two solid-state amps. What type of amp do I play the most? The answer to that question is solid-state; namely, a Tech 21 Trademark 60. Like the Kemper, the Trademark 60 may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is my cup of tea because it gives me useable tones at many different volume levels. Even the 18W tube amp that I designed and built in 1997 (the last surviving amp of the tube amps I built) is too loud for my uses when it starts to give up the goods. Yes, I could use an attenuator, but part of the tube amp magic is the mechanical feedback between one’s guitar and one’s amp. The moral of the story is to use what works for you and stop caring about what other people think.
     
  9. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    I have a Kemper Kabinet, and a Kone on order.
    Might be here Monday.
    If the Kabinet is what I'm reading it is then I am done and done. The imprints in the new software are even pretty good on my XiTone MBritt cab.
    I'll have a better idea/opinion in a few days with any luck.
     
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    Yeah I've heard about those Kones. I guess I could get a Kemper speaker with that. The speaker has a whizzer cone. I remember those from old speakers in the day.
     
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    RickP Established 1960, Still Not Dead

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    When using the Axe Fx, I use a CLR MK II Neo mostly, but for years used an RCF NX12SMA. Either are great sounding powered FRFR monitors for use with a modeler.
     
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    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Yes, this Kone/speaker employs a whizzer cone. It has been specifically designed for the software.
    Can't wait for this.
     
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    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    That's got great reviews!
     
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    RickP Established 1960, Still Not Dead

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    Yes, both are gig-worthy... used the RCF 4 years straight, now on my 3rd with the CLR. They both sound great to me.
     
  15. DreamTheaterRules

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    That was a joke. Keep up. :D Like Boogie said, I’ve seen all this before. So many times I didn’t bother watching it for long.
     
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    I could counter the “lose their tone when attenuated” with “the digital models NEVER sound as good when turned up.” ;)
     
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    Sorry I was so used to you being a jerk. J/K!!!:eek:
     
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    Right now I was playing and I wondered what amp I was playing on the Kemper that sounded so good. Turns out it was an Archon!
     
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    Yeah, that’s me
     
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  20. Egads

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    HEY MAN! I ain't gonna fall for no banana in the tailpipe!
     
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