I've been so wrong (Setup)

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  1. owickerman

    owickerman New Member

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    Since I received my first PRS (a 509), I believed that PRS guitars were somehow created to have a "vintage" feeling with an action a little bit high which seemed ok with a chunky neck (sorry, I've been raised with a IBZ Wizard neck in hand...).
    So, I kept a little relief in the neck and accomodate myself with an action a little high for my taste.

    Everything changed when I discovered this video :


    I then created a magic tool as indicated and followed exactly this video. I have now under 2 mm of action at the 12th fret for the low E and I know that it can be tweacked to go some fraction down.

    So, PRS guitars have nothing "vintage" except for the craftsmanship and the quality. They can play as any very high tech shred guitar created these days but with a classy look ;)
     
  2. toothace

    toothace We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers.

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    That workbench is WAY too neat and tidy...there's definitely something wrong with this guy!!:rolleyes:
     
  3. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    I have very little idea whether the setup technique is correct, but it seems pretty good. I’m not into using the green cleaning spray on the fretboard, however. Seems to me that cleaning with lemon oil (naphtha) is a safer bet, then wiping that off and finishing with what PRS uses, which I believe is a light furniture polish like Behold.
     
  4. DreamTheaterRules

    DreamTheaterRules New and improved member

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    Simple green is natural, but undeluted a very strong cleaner... I use it to clean my coffee roaster. Would have never thought to use it on a fretboard. I use Seymour Duncan fretboard cleaner. Then lemon oil after its cleaned.
     
  5. owickerman

    owickerman New Member

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    I ordered the crimson guitars stuff, the reviews are unparalleled. I keep you informed when I receive it.
     
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  6. pac90

    pac90 In Helix Land, the waters warm

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    great thorough presentation, and now Im hungry for Olives ;)

    amazon have string action gauges for cheap
     
  7. Wakester

    Wakester Re Member

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    I'm cheap, I used to use a Dime or Nickel as my gauge, depending on which guitar I was setting.
     
  8. Gigi

    Gigi New Member

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    this guy might not have any fear cutting strings in this brutal way, but i suggest you to put a cloth under the tail of the bridge to avoid damage on the top and maybe detune strings before cutting.
     
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    pac90 In Helix Land, the waters warm

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    bump for eddie, I knew I'd seen this on here

    setup cu24
     
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    ieso New Member

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    I don't understand the identification of lemon oil with naphtha. Are you saying clean with naphtha and then follow with lemon oil?
     
  11. Eddie kim

    Eddie kim New Member

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    I use nickel and dimes as well. Only it’s to shape my cue tips... hahaha.
     
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    Eddie kim New Member

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    Thanks. I’ve seen this video over a dozen times.
     
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  13. dogrocketp

    dogrocketp I drank the PRS kool aid, and it was tasty!

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    I love Cesar’s accent and choice of words. It’s fun to listen to.
     
  14. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Nickel and dime describes my playing...:oops::)
     
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  15. Guitpicky

    Guitpicky New Member

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    I don't cut them at tension because I'm too afraid of losing an eye. There's nothing wrong with intonating a guitar on the bench, good luthiers do it all the time. Intonation is based on string length, it doesn't change when you rotate the guitar 90 degrees.

    The way you fret the notes when intonating may change based on position if you're not fretting the same way in both. Ideally in both you want to use just enough pressure to fret the note cleanly, no more no less for the most accurate intonation.

    I use a little painters tape to secure anything that might want to take flight with no strings attached. Free lesson on my first LP with a close call that fortunately didn't leave a mark :)
     
  16. andy474x

    andy474x Knows the Drill

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    I can usually set my action much lower and not get buzz, fretting out, etc., than I prefer to actually play with. I like to bend strings, and have the adjacent string able to push out of the way with my finger instead of slip under and start to add an unwanted note. But the necks can be set to almost dead straight and the action quite low, which is exactly what we like, action that can be set lower than our preference, not the other way around!
     
  17. Parralax view

    Parralax view New Member

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    My Hawaii tech is known all over Oahu for setting the lowest possible, playable action for these cats out here. He was pretty aghast at my action height. "How do you play this thing this high", Man, I'm from Texas and we grab some meat"! To me, it is factory normal as bought and has never changed and is perfect for me. He wanted to change it so bad, but I wouldn't let him. He now knows not to bother to ask on all the marks I bring him.
     

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