Is It That They All Sound Different, Or Do I Just Like Cute Amp Boxes?

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I have four amps.

I could easily live with just the HXDA. It's certainly all that.

However, I'll admit to a certain fondness for seeing multiple amps in my studio. Is it that I'm a greedy, amp-obsessed SOB, or do I actually need 4 amps?

Hint: There's no need to answer this question, it's merely rhetorical. But go ahead. This is your chance to tell me (once again) that I need psychiatric help.
 
I have four amps.

I could easily live with just the HXDA. It's certainly all that.

However, I'll admit to a certain fondness for seeing multiple amps in my studio. Is it that I'm a greedy, amp-obsessed SOB, or do I actually need 4 amps?

Hint: There's no need to answer this question, it's merely rhetorical. But go ahead. This is your chance to tell me (once again) that I need psychiatric help.
If you've got the desire, and you can acquire without life getting dire ... roll'em in, you just live once and you can still sell them if you get tired of any.
 
You know you’ll feel nothing but enabled from anything I’d say… two HXDAs just begins to outline the disregard for the concept of need in my room. There’s 8-10 more, besides cabs, as well as (high on the SchefmanList of “doesn’t count as an amp”) an Axe Fx III Turbo with its RJM controller and powered cabs.

Need and guitar playing are not compatible concepts ;)
 
You know you’ll feel nothing but enabled from anything I’d say… two HXDAs just begins to outline the disregard for the concept of need in my room. There’s 8-10 more, besides cabs, as well as (high on the SchefmanList of “doesn’t count as an amp”) an Axe Fx III Turbo with its RJM controller and powered cabs.

Need and guitar playing are not compatible concepts ;)
This is probably why you're my hero.

But I actually have needs relating to guitar playing, because, livelihood.
 
This is probably why you're my hero.

But I actually have needs relating to guitar playing, because, livelihood.
That’s the worst part… I haven’t had a paying gig in a long while now! It’s almost like I’ve come full circle, back to when I was playing for free in my teens. I should start a new band: The Benjamin Button Experience
 
Agreed, and most especially when it comes to amps.
Generally, I've bought my amps to use on specific types of ad music and film/video projects.

There was a need to have certain tones, at least I thought so. Could I have gotten away with one? Sure. But that's my opinion, who's to say whether my clients would have been as happy?
 
Generally, I've bought my amps to use on specific types of ad music and film/video projects.

There was a need to have certain tones, at least I thought so. Could I have gotten away with one? Sure. But that's my opinion, who's to say whether my clients would have been as happy?

Different strokes - you've had specific tones in mind, so that makes sense; or at the very least, is a great excuse for acquiring piles of different amps!

In the last twenty years I've moved from playing 6-string bass and baritone, to baritone and guitar. No more bass - my hands/arms were starting to give me serious problems, especially the radial nerve on both sides. Had therapy, got better. Principally, I Iearned what not to do


Since then, in pursuit of specific guitar playing skills that I should have picked up when I was much younger, I've been buying big amps that "hold the note" in a particular way. I haven't got over the desire for serious volume either, though I've made considerable progress while we were in lockdown; i.e. being forced to play at home, and at more reasonable levels.

The tones I've been after are violin-like, to cover things that lie between prog/folk (from Yes to Mike Oldfield to Clannad) and more fusion-y/rocky stuff (from Metheny to Carlton and Eric Johnson). I'm like the dollar store equivalent of all of these......


Smaller amps have never worked for me, so although I try/buy them from time to time, they never stick with me. The very smallest amps I use are 50W, and right now I'm playing through a Coliseum MkIIB: all with S-type guitars. In a month or two, I'll probably swap out the IIB for one of my favourite Hiwatts (DR201 PA head), and stick a Cornish SS-3 in front of it. Good (amp) times :)
 
Different strokes - you've had specific tones in mind, so that makes sense; or at the very least, is a great excuse for acquiring piles of different amps!

In the last twenty years I've moved from playing 6-string bass and baritone, to baritone and guitar. No more bass - my hands/arms were starting to give me serious problems, especially the radial nerve on both sides. Had therapy, got better. Principally, I Iearned what not to do


Since then, in pursuit of specific guitar playing skills that I should have picked up when I was much younger, I've been buying big amps that "hold the note" in a particular way. I haven't got over the desire for serious volume either, though I've made considerable progress while we were in lockdown; i.e. being forced to play at home, and at more reasonable levels.

The tones I've been after are violin-like, to cover things that lie between prog/folk (from Yes to Mike Oldfield to Clannad) and more fusion-y/rocky stuff (from Metheny to Carlton and Eric Johnson). I'm like the dollar store equivalent of all of these......


Smaller amps have never worked for me, so although I try/buy them from time to time, they never stick with me. The very smallest amps I use are 50W, and right now I'm playing through a Coliseum MkIIB: all with S-type guitars. In a month or two, I'll probably swap out the IIB for one of my favourite Hiwatts (DR201 PA head), and stick a Cornish SS-3 in front of it. Good (amp) times :)

I have no amps, only use plugins as I only play at home, would love a DG30 though, but my room would be way too small to accommodate that volume,
I play much louder at home than I ever did on a job.
Nowadays I blast myself with a Twin-Reverb at my place, but it’s too heavy to take out.

My Quilter weighs 21 pounds. Mostly it stays home with the cover on, but maybe someday I’ll get another call.:rolleyes:
 
Since then, in pursuit of specific guitar playing skills that I should have picked up when I was much younger, I've been buying big amps that "hold the note" in a particular way.
This is a point that deserves discussion, because among the interesting things that distinguishes between amps is how they handle the ADSR envelope of a note and the way it compresses - both of these factors play a big role in 'holding the note'.

I think about tube rigs a lot like how I think about analog synthesizers. The guitar is an oscillator with some first-stage filtering and modulation, but the amp is the second stage of the synth's parts, i.e., the filters, the envelope generator, the output modulators and other bits, as well some of the effects (reverb, compression, distortion, etc.).

When people talk about 'forgiving' amps, they're basically referring to the amp's ADSR envelope. If it's got a slower ADSR envelope, with slower attack/decay/sustain/release times, most players will refer to it as forgiving. The envelope varies as the amp is pushed into overdrive, so how it handles that is also of interest. The amount of compression affects the ADSR envelope, too, but also does something with the frequencies that get emphasized, enhanced, etc.

An amp that's forgiving suits a lot of players well, but it's always a matter of degree and trade-offs. An amp with a faster, more percussive attack with faster decay and release times is suited to different styles and players, and of course there's everything in-between.

I've yet to find an amp that does everything. They've all got their quirks and tradeoffs. They do different things.

Then there's the whole issue of touch-sensitivity, and you can throw clarity, ability to have all the notes of a chord come through clearly despite the overdrive, and frequency response, filter resonance, etc., into the stew.

Like you, I prefer 50W and higher amps, generally, though my DG30 performs more like a high powered amp (and it's loud as all get-out when I want it to be!) but in any case, big amps tend to have clearer, tighter (some call it piano-like) bass, and more clean headroom. Again, there's a huge variety among different amps rated with similar power.

Maybe all this is why I don't care for digital modeling amps. Synthesists know that analog synths, and digital recreations of analog synths, sound different. If my analogy holds true, it's simply an inherent result of the technologies at work, at least at this stage of the game.

Thanks to your discussion, I guess I'm answering the question posed in my original post! :oops:
 
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Back in the day all my amps needed new tubes and bias jobs.
Everything was wide open and a Tele required!

After I got hearing aids a few years ago, I can hear that in my phrasing.
 
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