Initial truss rod adjustment for changing to .009s

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My S2 594 Singlecut with the Pattern Vintage neck sounds fabulous with the .010s but my seven decade old finger joints are happier with a lighter gauge. If I want to try .009s (could ultimately be .0095s) what would you guys recommend for the initial change for the truss rod and how long should I wait for the neck to settle in before making further changes?
Thanks
 
My S2 594 Singlecut with the Pattern Vintage neck sounds fabulous with the .010s but my seven decade old finger joints are happier with a lighter gauge. If I want to try .009s (could ultimately be .0095s) what would you guys recommend for the initial change for the truss rod and how long should I wait for the neck to settle in before making further changes?
Thanks
I wouldn't touch anything until you have played it for a few days. Just because you're going down to 9s doesn't necessarily mean you'll need to tweak the truss rod. If it was a guitar with a trem, you would likely need to adjust the trem claw to bring the bridge parallel again. But, since this is a two piece bridge, I'd leave it alone. I run 9s on all of mine, and the only one I ever had to tweak was on an SE.
 
I wouldn't touch anything until you have played it for a few days. Just because you're going down to 9s doesn't necessarily mean you'll need to tweak the truss rod. If it was a guitar with a trem, you would likely need to adjust the trem claw to bring the bridge parallel again. But, since this is a two piece bridge, I'd leave it alone. I run 9s on all of mine, and the only one I ever had to tweak was on an SE.
Seconded. I don't think I've ever had to make a TR adjustment after going down a gauge. A few days will be indicative. Enjoy!
 
I would take a current relief measurement and write it down. Change the strings and play it for several days then measure the relief and adjust to match your initial measurement.....if it has moved appreciably.
 
My S2 594 Singlecut with the Pattern Vintage neck sounds fabulous with the .010s but my seven decade old finger joints are happier with a lighter gauge. If I want to try .009s (could ultimately be .0095s) what would you guys recommend for the initial change for the truss rod and how long should I wait for the neck to settle in before making further changes?
Thanks
I agree that it might not make enough of a difference to absolutely require an adjustment, but depending on how sensitive you are to your setup and the feel of the guitar, you just might need a little tweak. I might be in the minority, but I do a complete setup with every string change. Most often, no truss rod adjustment is needed, but there have been times where a bit of coaxing was in order. I actually went heavier with my strings. It’s an SE, so it came with 9s, and I went to 10s. I’m a couple of years behind you and fully relate to the hand issues. I honestly didn’t see a lot of difference between the 9s and 10s when it came to playability. Yeah, it was a bit stiffer, but in a really good way. I felt more in control. And the tone had a touch more meat to it. I tried the measuring thing for a bunch of setups, but now I use more of a hands on approach. If it buzzes on the lower frets with a slightly strong pluck, I give it a touch more bow. If it buzzes on the higher frets, a little less bow; and I adjust string height along with the relief and bring them both in together.
But that’s just me…
 
I went from 10's to a 9 set yesterday with my SE Soapbar Singlecut and didn't have to touch my truss rod. The change made no difference in the neck. The strings needed replacing and that was the only set I had. I'll go back to 10's soon as I can get a set. I don't really like 9's.
 
I would take a current relief measurement and write it down. Change the strings and play it for several days then measure the relief and adjust to match your initial measurement.....if it has moved appreciably.
I second this, but maybe because I don't entirely trust my own skill in adjustments. There are many times I've tweaked/changed something and thought "I think that's worse" and have wished I'd measured it first.
 
I second this, but maybe because I don't entirely trust my own skill in adjustments. There are many times I've tweaked/changed something and thought "I think that's worse" and have wished I'd measured it first.
It doesn’t often happen, and might be more of an issue with bass strings, but I’ve run into instances where after resetting exact relief measurements, the different strings vibrated differently and needed a different relief.
 
There's definitely going to be a difference, but wether or not you care about the difference is what matters.

If you had the strings on the higher side, and you have a light touch, all you will notice is that it's a LOT easier to play.

If you play a bit more aggressive, and had it on the lower side, you will likely notice quite a bit of rattle.

Definitely give it a couple of days, and if there are any issues, maybe give it a 1/8 of a turn looser.
 
maybe give it a 1/8 of a turn looser
Thanks. That's what I was looking for, a ballpark initial guess if an adjustment is needed. I also agree that it's very helpful to take measurements and remember the starting point as well as giving it a few days to equilibrate. Since I like low action, getting it as close as possible matters.
 
perhaps try the 9.5's first.. quite a difference..

fwiw i use 9.5's on strats and 10's on LPs/594/Gretsch to fool myself into thinking string tension feels the same
 
fwiw i use 9.5's on strats and 10's on LPs/594/Gretsch
Yeah, that's absolutely in the mix. 8's are on the Tele now & over the next few months all the guitars are going to get new string tryouts including 8.5's and 9.5's.
 
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