I Want To Hear A DG50 Clip

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Anyone have a clip of their DG50 amp? The PRS site has DG30 clips even on the DG50 page, and I can't find any elsewhere.

I'd really love to hear one. I love my PRS single-channel amps, the DG30 and the HXDA. I would think the DG 50 would be something I'd be interested in, but they are nowhere to be heard.

Anyone have one? Feel like making a clip?
 
Hey Les if you remember I had the pleasure of using a DG 50,As I stated before this amp likes it clean and loud,it's ridiculous loud.It will delve into Marshall territory only cranked very loud,I tried to get a lower overdriven sound but she wouldn't have it sounded kind of fizzy.I think you have the perfect combination of amps at your disposal,although I prefer the 50 watt hxda.And Iam with you if someone has a 50 watter let us hear it.
 
I do, too.

If you watch the 2013 experience videos, a tube goes bad on the 30, and they actually swap in the 50 for a little bit...but then he never plays it! Argh! And then they switch the 30 back in.
 
My 2013 Exp video doesn't show a comparison between the two, but DG did play both...maybe someone else's does? And since I spent over a year identifying the specific target tone of what eventually became the Super Dallas, I can pick it out instantly. That character was not inherent in the DG30 - though fantastic in its own right - but was immediately identifiable when he played the DG50 with the 2x12. Prior to the DG30 and his Learning to Fly release, to me (just my opinion), the DG tone was no more showcased than on his Way Down Deep release. That was done with a few amps, but predominantly with the HXDA and Super Dallas. When he demo'ed the amps at EXP, he consistently got that tone with off the shelf gear, so it wasn't studio trickery. But the DG30 was a departure from that tone with a little more Vox-like influence. The 50 kept the low-mid growl warmth that the SuperD produced, although at big volume.

This was 2011-2012...2013 showed us an evolution in his tone due to his new amps. I feel that the DG50 is a lean toward his old camp and the DG30 is the new.
 
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My 2013 Exp video doesn't show a comparison between the two, but DG did play both...maybe someone else's does? And since I spent over a year identifying the specific target tone of what eventually became the Super Dallas, I can pick it out instantly. That character was not inherent in the DG30 - though fantastic in its own right - but was immediately identifiable when he played the DG50 with the 2x12. Prior to the DG30 and his Learning to Fly release, to me (just my opinion), the DG tone was no more showcased than on his Way Down Deep release. That was done with a few amps, but predominantly with the HXDA and Super Dallas. When he demo'ed the amps at EXP, he consistently got that tone with off the shelf gear, so it wasn't studio trickery. But the DG30 was a departure from that tone with a little more Vox-like influence. The 50 kept the low-mid growl warmth that the SuperD produced, although at big volume.

This was 2011-2012...2013 showed us an evolution in his tone due to his new amps. I feel that the DG50 is a lean toward his old camp and the DG30 is the new.

Hmmm....I've used my DG30 for a lot of sessions and much tone tweaking, and I'm not hearing Vox - no Kerannnnggggg. I'm hearing purely vintage American amps. That's not a bad thing, I didn't expect a Vox.

In any case, are you saying that the DG50 is similar in tone to the Super Dallas? I found this clip of the Super Dallas, and I gotta say -- I LOVE THE WAY THIS THING SOUNDS it's fookin' awesome!!! :adore:



Hey Les if you remember I had the pleasure of using a DG 50,As I stated before this amp likes it clean and loud,it's ridiculous loud.It will delve into Marshall territory only cranked very loud,I tried to get a lower overdriven sound but she wouldn't have it sounded kind of fizzy.I think you have the perfect combination of amps at your disposal,although I prefer the 50 watt hxda.And Iam with you if someone has a 50 watter let us hear it.

Yup, I remember you mentioned that, and there's no substitute for actually playing the amp as you did. So do you think it sounds like the above clip?

I'm less concerned with when the amp breaks up than the overall character of the tones available. I've got nothing against an amp that needs to be loud to break up. I just want to hear one! ;)
 
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I'm hearing purely vintage American amps. That's not a bad thing, I didn't expect a Vox.
I was a bit vague in my statement, but I didn't necessarily mean it sounded just like a Vox, but to my ears, in my experience, there's a timbre...just shy of what I would call 'chime', that the DG30 possesses that no other iterations did. Maybe the term would be presence? The tone comtrols and modes just reminded me of the high cut/top boost circuitry of classic Vox amps. I'm not as experienced with these amps as you so my recollection may be off. It's, again, more of a factor of character than straight-up tone, if you know what I mean. The DG amps are an amalgam of several designs, so the lines are categorically blurred beyond recognition.

I love that Greg Koch video and have watched it dozens of times! Listen to this DG demo video again and notice what I call the SuperD growl. He plays an HXDA at the beginning, then he moves to the Super Dallas. That's what I'm talkin' about! :rock:

And yes, to me, the DG50 had similarities to the SuperD character and tone...lots of similarity.
 
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This clip, as well as parts 3 and 4 are Grissom playing through a DG 50 at a clinic at Martin Music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPHZxKUgdjY

Thanks for posting this, David!

I would rock that amp in a heartbeat. Absolutely love the tone. In fact, I just put it on my "later this year" list. ;)

It's got a little of that Super Dallas thing, but it's also different, at least the clips are. And I'll bet the speaker cabs make a difference as well, probably the difference in the venues, too.


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For as rad as these amps seem there is very little video of them. Glad this was posted. Thanks.
 
For as rad as these amps seem there is very little video of them. Glad this was posted. Thanks.

Yeah, it's nice to hear the amp in its full glory!

I know people tend to be afraid of loud amps lately, but most of my favorite amps for the past 20 years have been on the loud side - my 90W Tremoverb was loud as hell, followed by Two-Rocks that sounded good mostly when turned up, a Bad Cat Hot Cat that didn't sound its best until cranked, various other Mesas and so on...

Of course, when I was a young player, all the amps were loud, heck a Twin was what, 85 watts? We cranked those so they'd distort. That got loud but it seemed normal at the time.

I love my HXDA 30, but I do think that for feel (not necessarily for tone), the 50 is a more inspiring amp to play live (for studio use, the 30 is great of course).

So I'm really glad that I've heard the DG50. I'll have one here eventually.
 
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I know people tend to be afraid of loud amps lately...

Of course, when I was a young player, all the amps were loud...

Yeah... but sometimes the world isn't as fun as it once was. Safe-sex, the PMRC, the war against drugs, helmet laws, sound-men, and in-ear-monitors have ruined the free-balling spirt of a loud amp, guitarists weren't. It's not us, it's them.
 
Yes Les, it's different. I'd expect it to be since it's the next evolution of his amp pursuit. Otherwise, he'd have stuck with the HXDA and the SuperD. It would have been great to see the whole setup...amp with settings and pedalboard. He was talking about specific pedals but never mentioned a specific make/model, probably by design.

Great videos!
 
Yes Les, it's different. I'd expect it to be since it's the next evolution of his amp pursuit. Otherwise, he'd have stuck with the HXDA and the SuperD. It would have been great to see the whole setup...amp with settings and pedalboard. He was talking about specific pedals but never mentioned a specific make/model, probably by design.

Great videos!

This image was posted on his Twitter wall from Europe 2015 run. It's the latest image I know of his pedalboard. He also recently posted on social media he was digging the Jetter GS 124, but it's not on the board.

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Yeah... but sometimes the world isn't as fun as it once was. Safe-sex, the PMRC, the war against drugs, helmet laws, sound-men, and in-ear-monitors have ruined the free-balling spirt of a loud amp, guitarists weren't. It's not us, it's them.

Wait just a doggone second here, Serg!

Safe sex was always on my radar in the 60s because it also meant I wasn't going to become a teenage Dad.

The PMRC was Tipper Gore's 80s thing, I was still young then.

The war against drugs was in full swing in the 60s, people went to jail for possession of a single joint.

Helmet laws? Michigan had them until two years ago, and I think it was cowardly of the legislature to bow to pressure from one interest group to eliminate them, given the cost to society of a brain damaged rider, but that's what happens.

Sound men? I like them. One less thing for me to do at a gig.

In ear monitors? The best-ever playing experience if you invest in good ones.

On the other hand, I completely agree that it's them, whoever they are. ;)

In the pic below are the pedals I really love with the DG30. Conceptually, the rig is similar to what Grissom uses, but the brands I use are different.

For example, he uses an EP Booster, where I prefer the Suhr Kokoboost; he likes the Telos overdrive and buffer, I use a separate Suhr buffer with two outputs, and I like the Fulltone Plimsoul with the amp (Grissom used to use one as well). I prefer the Eventide to the Strymon delay he uses, partly because it includes an awful lot of chorus programs and other modulations as well as delays, and partly because I use a real tube tape echoplex and not a digital re-creation (if I had to drag the thing on tour I might just go with the digital). The Bogner pedal isn't on the board now, because what it did is covered by the HXDA, and I like to have as few things in the audio chain as I can get by with.

 
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Thanks jfb! That looks about the same as it did in 2013, too. Figured he was talking about the Telos but they conspicuously left out any brand names.

Les, that board is so drool-worthy...pedals and in aesthetics. :rock:

Theres an extra gizmo on my board for some added fun. Otherwise, I'm doing exactly what you mentioned, Les: taking a similar approach with a different set of pedals. I'm partial to the buffer in the Klon, so it's up front, the BB Preamp can stack with the Klon if I want to go a little nuts, the EP Booster is staple, the El Cap was something I picked up after hearing DG demo it, and the Flint is possibly my favorite pedal of all. It's straight forward and common sense, to me.

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Theres an extra gizmo on my board for some added fun. Otherwise, I'm doing exactly what you mentioned, Les: taking a similar approach with a different set of pedals. I'm partial to the buffer in the Klon, so it's up front, the BB Preamp can stack with the Klon if I want to go a little nuts, the EP Booster is staple, the El Cap was something I picked up after hearing DG demo it, and the Flint is possibly my favorite pedal of all. It's straight forward and common sense, to me.

pedalboard7-2015.jpg

Yup, you have a really nice pedalboard, my friend! Great stuff on it, and it's nicely laid out on top of everything else! I don't know if I mentioned it, but I bought my son Jamie a Klon like yours for his studio, and he loves it.
 
My goofy eyes saw "...GD50 clip", got excited for some Grateful Dead talk. Oh well!
 
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