I love the feel and sound of a bolt on!!
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I have 6 SEs...
My favorites are my (2) SE CE Swamp Ash Sandlasted...
So far... I'm thinking my jam is a CE24 Swamp Ash. Hopefully, I can pick up one of the newer iterations, before they sell out.
My favorites are my (2) SE CE Swamp Ash Sandlasted...
So far... I'm thinking my jam is a CE24 Swamp Ash. Hopefully, I can pick up one of the newer iterations, before they sell out.
DISTORT6
NJ Devil
Jimmy Ramone
Last of the Ramones
I’m with ya OP, of my five PRSi, my 2002 Swamp Ash Special gets played the most.
I'd love to see that...one of my fav guitars of all time that I missed to boat on...standards are king!
I just happen to have it out as it is the one I've been playing lately. Here is a close up that I've shown many times.
Here is one that I just took because it's setting right here next to me. If I wasn't working (can I call reading the forum work?) I'd be playing it!
BrianC
more toys than talent
I have heard people rave about bolt on before and it never made sense to me - my bad.
Feel - it would seem that a set neck could be a smoother transition from neck to body?
Tone - it would seem that a set neck would mimic one piece of wood better than a bolt on?
I do have one bolt on JM.
Let me know your view
Feel - it would seem that a set neck could be a smoother transition from neck to body?
Tone - it would seem that a set neck would mimic one piece of wood better than a bolt on?
I do have one bolt on JM.
Let me know your view
Where the neck bolts to the guitar is well beyond where your hand will touch anything. The feel is, for all practical purposes, the same.
For tone, I think it comes down to, how well the vibrations transfer through the joint. The force that's applied to the screws more than mates the neck to the body with intimate contact. I think it has more to do with the wood types. Maple is usually used for the neck wood on a bolt on and that is why it has a brighter, livelier sound, IMO.
jkornel
Member
I too love the sound of my bolt on guitars (Peavey Vandenberg, CE24, Strat) ... but I also had a similar experience with an SE Custom 24 ... which leads me to believe that it is more of a wood thing. The common denominator on all these guitars is the Maple necks. So I tend to think the brightness and cutting tone comes from the maple necks rather than the bolt connection?
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
It's face validity but there shouldn't be a difference between bolt on and set-neck constructions. It's psychological bias, because it's different.
The different sound/feel is caused by a bunch of different factors: Strings (age, action), scale, fret number and position of pickups, pickup and it's height, cable lengths in the guitar... And wood specification is of very minor influence.
We believe urban legends by editors of guitar magazines, who trade their assumptions as truths. It was copied and copied... They 'believed'.
But wrote contrary behaviour on wood, one said it sound bright, an other it sound warm, a third finds more attack... What is the actual behaviour?
Results of scientific research for more than 30 years on electric guitars by Prof. Dr. Zollner lead to clear action and reaction ratio.
Even the knock on wood is false friend: An electric guitar is not a percussion instrument, it's a carrier of magnetic reactive parts (strings) in (a) magnetic (fields) of (a) pickup(s). And all parts of the circuit (and specs of the pickup(s) likewise inductivity, magnetic field area, etc.), distances and metal mass (gauges) have relevant influence on the electric sound. But neither wood, nor the neck joint. The would shouldn't (physically) resonate, because that will reduce our all beloved... sustain.
At least - for us players: Is the guitar by it's look (brand name, model name) attractive to us, we'll give it a first chance, is secondly the haptic feel and ergonomics right for us, first ties are bond, do we like the overall sound, it will be ours.
(I don't contradict, that I was on the wood train and neck joint train aswell in the past, but I stepped off - and guitarist life started to be easy.
And believe me with my collection of different guitars (with set-necks, bolt-ons, full maple, hollowbody with sound block or Trestle bracing, stoptails, Bigsby, double locking vibrato sytems, two point or six point vintage vibrato system, maple neck, mahohany neck, rosewood neck, carbon fibre reinforced neck, maple fretboard, ebony fretboard, rosewood fretboard, carbon fibre fretboard), it's better just to play and enjoy simply the moment with the chosen guitar.
The different sound/feel is caused by a bunch of different factors: Strings (age, action), scale, fret number and position of pickups, pickup and it's height, cable lengths in the guitar... And wood specification is of very minor influence.
We believe urban legends by editors of guitar magazines, who trade their assumptions as truths. It was copied and copied... They 'believed'.
But wrote contrary behaviour on wood, one said it sound bright, an other it sound warm, a third finds more attack... What is the actual behaviour?
Results of scientific research for more than 30 years on electric guitars by Prof. Dr. Zollner lead to clear action and reaction ratio.
Even the knock on wood is false friend: An electric guitar is not a percussion instrument, it's a carrier of magnetic reactive parts (strings) in (a) magnetic (fields) of (a) pickup(s). And all parts of the circuit (and specs of the pickup(s) likewise inductivity, magnetic field area, etc.), distances and metal mass (gauges) have relevant influence on the electric sound. But neither wood, nor the neck joint. The would shouldn't (physically) resonate, because that will reduce our all beloved... sustain.
At least - for us players: Is the guitar by it's look (brand name, model name) attractive to us, we'll give it a first chance, is secondly the haptic feel and ergonomics right for us, first ties are bond, do we like the overall sound, it will be ours.
(I don't contradict, that I was on the wood train and neck joint train aswell in the past, but I stepped off - and guitarist life started to be easy.
And believe me with my collection of different guitars (with set-necks, bolt-ons, full maple, hollowbody with sound block or Trestle bracing, stoptails, Bigsby, double locking vibrato sytems, two point or six point vintage vibrato system, maple neck, mahohany neck, rosewood neck, carbon fibre reinforced neck, maple fretboard, ebony fretboard, rosewood fretboard, carbon fibre fretboard), it's better just to play and enjoy simply the moment with the chosen guitar.
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Mentalo87
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I just happen to have it out as it is the one I've been playing lately. Here is a close up that I've shown many times.
Here is one that I just took because it's setting right here next to me. If I wasn't working (can I call reading the forum work?) I'd be playing it!
Funny, looks like I have a lost twin to your guitar. It’s also a '98 CE 22 Standard in the exact same finish, but with a fixed bridge and D2s
Btw I love bolt ons!
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Love it, but I'm now wondering how I got D1's and you have D2's, so I looked at the neck plate. Mine's a 95! I'll have to stop telling the year by memory. Still cool that we have twins. I played mine again last night. Working on "Gravity". Such a fun song.Funny, looks like I have a lost twin to your guitar. It’s also a '98 CE 22 Standard in the exact same finish, but with a fixed bridge and D2s
Btw I love bolt ons!
Bobd
New Member
Love bolt on guitars too. It makes it so easy to swap out necks in case of a warped neck or if I want another neck profile or fingerboard.... otherwise I dont see much advantage using a bolt on construction.
That said, why is it almost impossible to get a CE PRS neck ?
That said, why is it almost impossible to get a CE PRS neck ?
Mentalo87
New Member
Imho that might be true in theory but I think getting a replacement neck is almost impossible, especially with PRS. Fender might be the exception.
dmatthews
Dave's not here
There's a lovely CE22 previously owned by Alex Lifeson for a mere $75,000 CAD on the verb.
Floyd_Argus
Student of the game
I own three bolt-ons, one w a Maple top (SE CE24), one w no top wood (SE CE24 Std), and one w Swamp ash top (SE CE24 Sandblasted), and spent time earlier today comparing these to a set neck ( SE Custom 24) that I just bought.
For high gain tones, the set neck guitar was noticeably tighter sounding.
All have mahogany bodys, maple necks, rosewood fretboards, stock PRS Trem, and stock pickups (85/15 S).
For high gain tones, the set neck guitar was noticeably tighter sounding.
All have mahogany bodys, maple necks, rosewood fretboards, stock PRS Trem, and stock pickups (85/15 S).
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Mike Duncan
DGT Player
I've two or three of this exact guitar...man I wish I'd kept them. GOLDEN (no pun intended) era PRS right there.Find yourself one of these. You’ll be happy.
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