HUH a new SE DGT just announced on Youtube

[Rod/]

"Damn! It looks just like mine!"

Cool. You could have 2 the same color, and the little woman wouldn’t know..

 

[psassaman]

Cool. You could have 2, and the little woman wouldn’t know.. just kidding….

Let’s not all act like we haven’t done that before…

 

[24Fretter]

I've found SEs look the part, but have that "dipped in thick plastic" tone and feel, sort of like epiphone. And of course the fretboard prep and fretwork is standard import crapshoot, unlike USA prs where the majority are excellent.

 

[Ovibos]

I've found SEs look the part, but have that "dipped in thick plastic" tone and feel, sort of like epiphone. And of course the fretboard prep and fretwork is standard import crapshoot, unlike USA prs where the majority are excellent.

Honey! I found that troll you misplaced!

 

[Draconomics]

SE DGT?! Oh, I'm excited for this. I might spring for it.

Oh yes, erm...

I've found SEs look the part, but have that "dipped in thick plastic" tone and feel, sort of like epiphone. And of course the fretboard prep and fretwork is standard import crapshoot, unlike USA prs where the majority are excellent.

Looks like I gotta place a call to the elitist police again.

 

[alantig]

Looks like I gotta place a call to the elitist police again.

Cheap Trick, right?

 

[Rod/]

I've found SEs look the part, but have that "dipped in thick plastic" tone and feel, sort of like epiphone. And of course the fretboard prep and fretwork is standard import crapshoot, unlike USA prs where the majority are excellent.

I couldn’t disagree with you more… I’ll leave it at that….

 

[Alnus Rubra]

I love my SE245.

Finish is way above some US (not PRS) that I’ve owned in the past.

If I had this guitar as an 18 year old, with my pops in law’s Blackstar HT5R amp I would be set.

The young of today don’t know how lucky they are.

 

[11top]

I mean, balls just get in the way now. I don’t even know why I still have mine besides filling out a speedo.

Speedo? Speedo?!
Don’t need no stinkin‘ Speedo.

 

[alantig]

I love my SE245.

Finish is way above some US (not PRS) that I’ve owned in the past.

If I had this guitar as an 18 year old, with my pops in law’s Blackstar HT5R amp I would be set.

The young of today don’t know how lucky they are.

Ain't that the truth. I still remember trying to do all kinds of things to my Hondo II LP copy to try to make it more playable. It's still floating around my parents' house - I'm sure someday I'll lay hands on it again, remember how high the action was, and try to adjust it again.

 

[Draconomics]

Ain't that the truth. I still remember trying to do all kinds of things to my Hondo II LP copy to try to make it more playable. It's still floating around my parents' house - I'm sure someday I'll lay hands on it again, remember how high the action was, and try to adjust it again.

I started with a Squier Strat. That thing looked so cool, black with a chrome pickguard, but the action was telephone pole wire high, and anything that was metal on it had oxidized. To make things worse, since I was on an SRV kick back them, I strung it with 13's in standard tuning.

The SE I picked up a few years later was light-years away from that.

 

[Rod/]

It was 1964, and my first electric guitar was an Ideal, 2 pickup electric with a horrendous whammy bar made in Japan. Cost was $75. Thanks Dad for chipping in… it literally made my fingers bleed…horrible guitar…..and back then you could only buy flat wound strings and I was playing Ventures & Link Wray rock n roll and later Yardbirds and Rolling Stones……
The beginners guitars back then were pretty horrendous (I’m being kind), and today we have such great choices. The present SE line being at the top of the heap…

 

[WallyG3]

 

[phillybri]

I want it on a level that is admittedly irrational...

 

[dmatthews]

Cheap Trick, right?

It wants you to want it.

 

[24Fretter]

SE DGT?! Oh, I'm excited for this. I might spring for it.

Oh yes, erm...



Looks like I gotta place a call to the elitist police again.

Not elitist, honest. Every time I pick up an SE, the first thing that strikes me is the super thick plastic finish. Sound matches that... the wood just doesn't resonate well under all that. Then I look at fretwork, which has consistently been in the hit/miss category, miss quite a bit more often.

Only one I ever found where I felt the tone and fretwork were acceptable was a semi hollow, some signature model, but the neck was too big or I might have bought it.

They can look really good and be quite pretty, but tonally and quality wise, a satin s2 kicks the crap out of them.

 

[Boze-63]

OMG..are we waiting on a "part 3"..??
I don't think I can take the actual "wait" before these become available.......

I've had 2 SEs and currently my Bernie is 1 of my go-to guitars for any LP/gibby fun.
I can't beleive I was about to drop $$$ on a T-type and this annoucement comes along and puts THAT on hold....
...now, what story do i tell the wife about this..??

 

[Draconomics]

Not elitist, honest. Every time I pick up an SE, the first thing that strikes me is the super thick plastic finish. Sound matches that... the wood just doesn't resonate well under all that. Then I look at fretwork, which has consistently been in the hit/miss category, miss quite a bit more often.

Only one I ever found where I felt the tone and fretwork were acceptable was a semi hollow, some signature model, but the neck was too big or I might have bought it.

They can look really good and be quite pretty, but tonally and quality wise, a satin s2 kicks the crap out of them.

So...being a barnyard luthier, I've worked on a few guitars in my time. $100 guitar shaped things, Gibson's, SEs, Chinese, USAese, Mexicanese, East LAese...etc. SEs can vary a bit in quality here and there, but they are consistently above average. The fretwork on my Paul's SE was near flawless out of the box, and they feel good to play on. I did do a little spot leveling and polished the snot outta them, but that's just me being anal. It plays better than any Gibson I've compared it to, and can hang with some US made PRS geetars I've demoed.

Ok...nitro vs poly. There is a valid argument sure, but considering the actual thickness of the coats on SEs? Nah. The difference is miniscule, if any, and heck on an electric the pickups matter far more than the wood. Once you send that signal thru pedals, amps, mics, room sounds...how would you even tell which is better? Put some domestic PRS pickups in there, swap the nut, stick some man made saddles in, and it's basically 95% there. Been playing for 16 years now, I can't hear any difference. Doesn't matter much to me either I guess, I just play the darn thing and hope it doesn't sound like a sick cat.

 

[DISTORT6]

I watched it again.
Yup. After setting it up and checking the measurements down to the thousandths of an inch, it’s still funny as hell when they break out the porta-band and cut it up.

 

[Wylie]

I love my SE245.

Finish is way above some US (not PRS) that I’ve owned in the past.

If I had this guitar as an 18 year old, with my pops in law’s Blackstar HT5R amp I would be set.

The young of today don’t know how lucky they are.

Seriously. I’ll always love my Epi LP because it was my first electric, but…the SE’s are orders of magnitude better. I can’t imagine how different things would’ve been if teenage me could’ve heard what a guitar sounds like when it plays in tune above the third fret.