HBII SC Piezo thoughts

Greywolf

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In my search for my 70th bday axe I came across this . HBII SC Piezo .. with 57/08's !

I have a HB II Artist blue fade and love it .. and would have preferred the 57/08's to the 58/15 LT's . This would be a great match , especially for OpenMic

so the big questions .. Would you recommend them? How many folks use their piezo "s ? , if so how many are running dual cord.?
Waiting to hear if it has Coil taps , I've read it may not .. not a deal breaker . but it would be nice..
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I have a HBII (DC) with 57/08's and think it sounds great with them....particularly the neck pickup.

I also love piezos and think you can absolutely get useable acoustic tones out of them. But, more than anything, I find it incredibly fun utilizing the two cord method to blend the two different tones. To me, that's where the magic is for a piezo-equipped guitar.
 
I had a McCarty II semi-hollow and it was an amazing guitar, most anything out of the Maryland factory will be head and shoulders above the mass's. I do have a Partscaster that I put a Graphtech Ghost Piezo system in. I found that for the best tones from either pickup set, you need to get a dedicated acoustic amp and a Y cord with an ABY box to get the most out of the instrument. I found the piezo's sound anemic through a regular guitar amp; you need an amp with a tweeter to get the good acoustic top-end out of the amp. The other solution would be to get a Rivera Sedona which has a dedicated acoustic channel (w/tweeter) in the amp and you can foot switch between the two. The Sedona's come in 55 and 25 watts. I had a Sedona 55 and it was an incredible amp, the acoustic side was the best amplified acoustic sound I've ever heard (it is a heavy amp though). I remember seeing Doyle Dokes at my local indie music store doing clinics around Christmas time and he used the Rivera Sedona 55, it used to be an sig. amp for him then he moved on to other companies that probably offered him a bit ore money. Incredible guitar you have there. enjoy.
 
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I’ve nothing useful to add, other than I think managing batteries in a multi $k guitar would annoy and worry me with the potential for leakage. Outside of that, stunning guitars. I’m totally excited about one day having an HB II, probably a 594. Maybe my 70th! I turn 66 on Saturday. Happy birthday to both of us! To steal a line from an old friend - “It’s my birthday and we’re having a party. Please bring two expensive presents.”
 
Thanks for the input , it's on my list .
I bi amp regularly and have for 30 years Hey Garcia ran 2 cords .. so you know it ain't bad.

there are a few others out there ... but all a big chunk more c notes ..
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Those both look amazing. Keep in mind the mag vs piezo setup is a different bi-amp situation than most, and a very far cry from the reason Jerry ran two cables haha (one cable was for his onboard effects loop, but it combined with the other cable to send his guitar signal to the same amplifier after the OBEL).

I just got a Hollowbody II Piezo as both my first hollow and first piezo-equipped guitar (and also my first PRS core model! - outside my Silver Sky but not sure if this crowd necessary counts that haha!) a few weeks ago.

I had honestly completely written off the piezo system as something I'd likely never use, and would have gotten one without it if PRS made the HBII in the same bridge configuration without the piezo, but I am VERY glad I did. I haven't run two cables yet because I haven't found a need to, the acoustic sounds are more than convincing enough through my regular guitar amps (bogner shiva, 63 vibrolux, tone king imperial).

Both my bandmate and my wife (who is a fantastic singer/songwriter and plays very high end acoustic guitars) were blown away at how natural the piezo sounds in this guitar. My wife had her Taylor 816 at the studio that day so we compared the sound of her Taylor plugged in DI to my HBII's piezo only through my vibrolux and it wasn't even a contest. HBII by a mile.

Granted, in a live situation the Taylor would see a preamp before DI straight into a PA, but the HBII would be optimized as well. I firmly believe the PRS/Baggs system produces a more accurate representation of an acoustic guitar - which is what a piezo system does, it creates the best representation of what an acoustic guitar sounds like - it is NOT "picking up" the sound of an acoustic guitar the way a magnetic pickup literally picks up the vibrations of a string. Piezo is picking up pressure differentiations and converting that to an electrical signal that then gets interpreted by guitar-related tone-shaping devices that produce what we know as an acoustic guitar sound.

All that said, I envision myself integrating the piezo heavily into my sound. Right now with just the one amp I really enjoy the mix/mag output and for clean tones blending in just a touch of the piezo pickup. It also works pretty well into drive pedals, though the more piezo mixed in the more flubby/looser the tone will get. I will probably set up an acoustic amp or an acoustic preamp>DI and play around with the two cable method, but then I won't get the blended tones anymore. Other use is getting a dry/piezo signal while recording, can basically record the exact same take on an acoustic guitar and an electric guitar...simultaneously (mind blown emoji)!

Thanks for coming to my ted talk!
 
Of the options so far, I vote for the maple board with gold hardware! Whatever you choose, you deserve it big time Mr. Greywolf!!
Was just about to say that one really pulls everything off well. I'm not usually a fan of flamed maple boards, they can take away from amazing tops/bodies and make the entire guitar a bit over the top to the eye, but this one is subtle enough where it's enhances the whole piece instead of acting as an additional ornament.
 
My CFO thinks I have plenty , and I should invest in lessons instead .. lol I explained I tried that ...3 different places turned me down because I was TOO old !!.
 
Personally I despise the piezo’s sound and I prefer the 594HB-II over the HB-II Piezo. But that’s just a personal preference, they’re obviously great guitars.
 
I have a SC HBII in Purple Hazel. I have played a bunch of gigs with mine. I run 2 wireless units with it. I run the magnetic pickups through my normal chain of pedal board to amp. I run the piezo into either a Fishman Aura or FlyRig Acoustic then to the board. I send that back through the monitor. It sounds really good that way. I have played tones from spanking clean to the heavier side of medium gain with it and it does well in all of those situations. It was my main guitar in a band where we were playing country music from a number of different decades. It worked really well in that band. I also have a HBII double cut. These are really versatile guitars and a Swiss army knife in a band.

Note: Both of mine have 57/08 pickups in them from the factory.
 
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