Has anyone noticed this parallel between PRS and Apple before?

[TheCraftsman]

The products work seamlessly with Apple's cloud based communication between various devices. I have zero issues with them to this day.

The phones communicate - and synchronize - with the iPads, the computers, the cloud, everything just freaking works! If I need to be near certain pieces of equipment and run Logic on my Mac without an assistant, I don't have to have a separate computer in the recording area. My iPad works with it as a remote, and it works PERFECTLY. So does my freaking PHONE!

As for Apple; this is what I tell everyone in my family, most are not tech savvy and I always say “Apple just work, they do what they’re designed to do and do it well”

 

[RC Mike]

Paul and Steve share some traits. Vision, focus, salesmanship, and charisma. Passion for what they do.

Apple (especially Apple in Steve’s second act) and PRS are both companies that changed their industries. Apple much more than PRS, but that’s also a reflection of the nature of their products.

PRS definitely took a cue from Apple’s marketing model around a dozen years ago. When they introduced the S2s they filled the gap in their product lineup, where consumers are encouraged to spend a bit more to move up the product line. They’ve kind of broken that now, as has Apple.

 

[sergiodeblanc]

Yo, you guys driving Tesla, I hope

Nah, bro I’m rollin’ coal and sendin’ green texts like a patriot.

 

[Wyzard]

I really hate the way Apple does business. I'm an IT Director and Apple products are terrible in the enterprise.

And yet, they're perfect for me: so I'm good

The outage today has me thinking that - from an enterprise POV at least - a lot of the alternatives suck donkeys.

 

[Prina]

Apple is great when you're OK paying the 'Apple tax' and staying in their walled garden. And many parts of that garden, like Logic, are really nice.

Ironically, some of their groundbreaking products like the iPod and iPhone became hugely more successful when they opened fenestrations in their walls by offering iTunes for Windows systems for the iPod and allowing 3rd party developers on the App Store for iPhone. Despite this they generally don't play well with others.

Should be interesting to see if/how they begin working with Nvidia again. They stopped supporting Nvidia GPUs for graphics with High Sierra OS but now with Apple's push into AI it's hard to avoid that current 900 lb. AI gorilla.

 

[archtop]

Where is this rule? I cannot find it.

Well, come along next time I'm in Reno or Las Vegas and we'll go to the Apple Store. The last 2 times doubters came along they were shocked when after refusing to leave we had to wait 45+ minutes for the oldest dude in the store to finish with the oldest customer in the store so he could hand me my online purchase which had been brought out and was 5' from me waiting for the old person 'specialist' to hand it to me.

I think their training is that 'old people' need extra attention so they have a 'specialist', but I've been coding on Apple's since the II+ and I never have questions nor need support.

Roseville, Calif. and Phoenix Biltmore are bad too. In Phoenix I had an Apple rep keep repeating "you're old you don't know about streaming but we're young we know about streaming. You need to get a better phone plan" in response to me trying to buy an iPhone that could hold all my music as I often drive where there's no cell service.

 

[dmatthews]

Well, come along next time I'm in Reno or Las Vegas and we'll go to the Apple Store. The last 2 times doubters came along they were shocked when after refusing to leave we had to wait 45+ minutes for the oldest dude in the store to finish with the oldest customer in the store so he could hand me my online purchase which had been brought out and was 5' from me waiting for the old person 'specialist' to hand it to me.

I think their training is that 'old people' need extra attention so they have a 'specialist', but I've been coding on Apple's since the II+ and I never have questions nor need support.

Roseville, Calif. and Phoenix Biltmore are bad too. In Phoenix I had an Apple rep keep repeating "you're old you don't know about streaming but we're young we know about streaming. You need to get a better phone plan" in response to me trying to buy an iPhone that could hold all my music as I often drive where there's no cell service.

That is insane.
I've never heard of such a ridiculous and insulting fail of a policy before.

 

[Wyzard]

Well, come along next time I'm in Reno or Las Vegas and we'll go to the Apple Store. The last 2 times doubters came along they were shocked when after refusing to leave we had to wait 45+ minutes for the oldest dude in the store to finish with the oldest customer in the store so he could hand me my online purchase which had been brought out and was 5' from me waiting for the old person 'specialist' to hand it to me.

I think their training is that 'old people' need extra attention so they have a 'specialist', but I've been coding on Apple's since the II+ and I never have questions nor need support.

Roseville, Calif. and Phoenix Biltmore are bad too. In Phoenix I had an Apple rep keep repeating "you're old you don't know about streaming but we're young we know about streaming. You need to get a better phone plan" in response to me trying to buy an iPhone that could hold all my music as I often drive where there's no cell service.

Wow.

I often read about a Britain that clearly only exists in the minds of certain folk who've never lived there. My mother OTOH was American, and I lived in Florida and California for many years. So I have some basic-but-genuine US living to draw on.

In all that time I never got the feeling - even in FL, where some of you may have noticed there really are quite a few old folk - that this was (or might become) a thing, if a youngster wanted to hold down a job.

Did some weird mutation occur after I left?

 

[archtop]

Wow.

I often read about a Britain that clearly only exists in the minds of certain folk who've never lived there. My mother OTOH was American, and I lived in Florida and California for many years. So I have some basic-but-genuine US living to draw on.

In all that time I never got the feeling - even in FL, where some of you may have noticed there really are quite a few old folk - that this was (or might become) a thing, if a youngster wanted to hold down a job.

Did some weird mutation occur after I left?

I think it's Apple trying so hard to accommodate older customers who have difficulty with tech that they train their employees to view everyone over 50 as tech novices with special needs - which results in discrimination.

Funny thing is I'm nowhere near retirement age but to people in their 20's everyone over 40 is "old".

 

[alantig]

That is insane.
I've never heard of such a ridiculous and insulting fail of a policy before.

And I've been in several Apple stores and never encountered this. My mother has been in an Apple store, and she's never mentioned running into it. My guess is this is local store policy, not a blanket policy.

 

[Moondog Wily]

Nah, bro I’m rollin’ coal and sendin’ green texts like a patriot.

This inspires me to write a song called "The Vegan Patriot"! Sounds like a superhero (Marvel, are you listening) ;~))

 

[RC Mike]

And I've been in several Apple stores and never encountered this. My mother has been in an Apple store, and she's never mentioned running into it. My guess is this is local store policy, not a blanket policy.

Yeah, something like that would make the news.

 

[Wyzard]

I think it's Apple trying so hard to accommodate older customers who have difficulty with tech that they train their employees to view everyone over 50 as tech novices with special needs - which results in discrimination.

This feels local to me, not global. As in: not a baked-in thing.

Still, what do I know?

 

[sergiodeblanc]

This inspires me to write a song called "The Vegan Patriot"! Sounds like a superhero (Marvel, are you listening) ;~))

Marvel is too woke already, I mean they have women superheros!

My ‘Merica only has men. Hot oiled, sweaty, muscular men in tights and wigs just like our forefathers.

 

[archtop]

This feels local to me, not global. As in: not a baked-in thing.

Still, what do I know?

I've figured it's a Nevada thing as I was working all over the west and other states weren't a problem or not as bad.

But, back on topic: PRS has no problem taking my money so I'll have to focus my buying on more PRS'

 

[frankencat]

Apple of today is not the Apple of yesterday. This is not good.
PRS of today is not the PRS of yesterday. This is good.


Personally I think Apple has come so far from the original vision of Jobs and Waz that it is now an entirely different vision.

 

[Herr Squid]

My ‘Merica only has men. Hot oiled, sweaty, muscular men in tights and wigs just like our forefathers.

What about Benjamin Franklin, huh?

 

[spawnofthesith]

This feels local to me, not global. As in: not a baked-in thing.

Still, what do I know?

I’m guessing the store(s?) practicing this would get in serious serious trouble too if brought to the attention of Apple

 

[Wyzard]

I would guess so too. When I've taught sales techniques to young staff members I've always stressed "reading" the customer.

This, by contrast, is an example of scrupulously avoiding doing so. It's a sales method that would maximize "friction" and - in the long run - minimize revenue across a particular demographic. Very not Apple.

Fact check conclusion: (broadly) not true.

 

[Daryl Jones]

Other than some similarities in vision (as mentioned previously) in the two entities, thankfully I see no parallels (thankfully) in the two companies. I abhor Apple products to a degree that most do not understand (very personal thing) and I've tried real hard to like them, I just can't. I would hate to feel the need to abandon my love of PRS guitars if I saw a consistent similarity with Apple.
Hey, I'm a stubborn Celt...it's just the way I am. No offense to anyone that's a fan, but I hate Fords too.