For Those Who Write Original Music...

WOW! Thank you so much - I rarely share anything I write but this response has given me some confidence
It's well-deserved.

One thing I've learned: If you don't step up to the plate, you can't hit a home run. Or even a single, pop fly, or strike out.

Put it out there. What's the worst that can happen? Someone might not like it? So what, you're no worse off.
 
To the general populace reluctant to share their music...

I have a friend who's one of the best producers I know, has a great voice, and plays her behind off. She's awesome, and made one of the British music magazines' Top 100 female artists list.

Here's what she told me that she kept reminding herself of over the years:

"Why not me?"

So I say, why not you? You're not worthy of having your music enjoyed by other people? Come on!
 
It's well-deserved.

One thing I've learned: If you don't step up to the plate, you can't hit a home run. Or even a single, pop fly, or strike out.

Put it out there. What's the worst that can happen? Someone might not like it? So what, you're no worse off.

Very true - now, I just have to continue working on it and see where the muse takes me


I liked that a lot.
Love the character.
Lots going on without feeling busy.

While I love the Phil Spector wall of sound, I am still trying to retain a good blend rather than just throwing things in there because I can run hundreds of tracks in Logic Pro


To the general populace reluctant to share their music...

I have a friend who's one of the best producers I know, has a great voice, and plays her behind off. She's awesome, and made one of the British music magazines' Top 100 female artists list.

Here's what she told me that she kept reminding herself of over the years:

"Why not me?"

So I say, why not you? You're not worthy of having your music enjoyed by other people? Come on!

That is a great attitude - however, when it comes to composing music and playing guitar, I have a case of imposter syndrome
 
I don't like to learn covers anymore and just write my own music. I think I have some good songs but I guess I won't know until I put them out there. My biggest problem is I have a ton of half written tunes that I don't go back to because I keep coming up with new ideas. I wonder though if it's laziness or a fear I can't finish it. I've got the equipment to lay down tracks. it's just realizing its more work than I thought. Right now I am actually playing bass for the worship team at church ( we have a bunch of guitar players but only me and one other bass player). I'm playing every weekend in August so after I get some down time I'm going to go at it. Love this discussion!!
Sometimes, it’s good to have a like minded collaborator. I had a friend who was like that. He’d tell me about all these song idea he had, and he DID have a bunch, but a riff here, a chorus there… almost none were finished into complete songs. He really did have a lot of ideas, and many good ones, but was not good at putting pieces together to form a song.

Get some of your boys together and jam over them. See what the other guys come up with in the jam and if it gives you ideas for moving forward with making one into a song.
 
To the general populace reluctant to share their music...

I have a friend who's one of the best producers I know, has a great voice, and plays her behind off. She's awesome, and made one of the British music magazines' Top 100 female artists list.

Here's what she told me that she kept reminding herself of over the years:

"Why not me?"

So I say, why not you? You're not worthy of having your music enjoyed by other people? Come on!
Posting links to my 30 years of failures sends me into a depressing tail spin of emotions. :p
 
A 40 year old Metallica song was the #1 new most downloaded “new” song last month. There’s always hope, bro!
Yeah, but that’s a masterpiece.

You're a talented guy. You succeeded when you completed the work. The listening public is fickle. WTF do they know, anyway? ;)
That’s kind of you to say, thanks.
 
They never do.
Just like what every “adult” ever said about the music of the youth throughout time.:D:p
I know all about every generation preferring the music they grew up on.

I was born in 1960. So, if I listed the popular music of the late 60s, the 70s, and 80s, and compared them to the "popular music" today, how do you think the popular music of my "growing up" era would fare in comparison? ;)
 
I know all about every generation preferring the music they grew up on.

I was born in 1960. So, if I listed the popular music of the late 60s, the 70s, and 80s, and compared them to the "popular music" today, how do you think the popular music of my "growing up" era would fare in comparison? ;)
I'll tell you one thing I've seen. In checking out various video's on YouTube from the same era's you mentioned (I was born in 1953) I'm surprised at the comments from many younger people. Things along the lines of "I never knew this kind of music excised" to "music was so much better back then" and "I wish I born much earlier so I could have been around to fully take all this music in."

A friend of mine from church has teenage daughters and he told me they are totally hooked on the Beach Boys!
I sent him the acapella version of "Sloop John B" and he said they were just astounded when they heard it.
 
I know all about every generation preferring the music they grew up on.

I was born in 1960. So, if I listed the popular music of the late 60s, the 70s, and 80s, and compared them to the "popular music" today, how do you think the popular music of my "growing up" era would fare in comparison? ;)
Doja Cat is better than The Beatles.
 
Which comes first, and which is harder?

Melody or lyrics?
Yes. Both. One, not other. Other, not one.

I sometimes find an interesting sequence of chords, or a riff, or a straight out instrumental melody, while mucking about on an instrument (usually guitar, sometimes not). It might turn into a whole song structure of possible verses, choruses, bridges, codas, etc. I may then decide to write some lyrics, or it may go on the backburner to be married up later with the next possibility:

Sometimes I come up with lyrics, usually some sort of story-based song, without ever touching an instrument until they are "done". If I don't have music on a backburner that works, I may then come up with some basic chords or a melody. It may get fully developed, or may be still a bit rough around the edges.

Sometimes, while writing lyrics, I hear a melody or chord structure right away, and they both develop concurrently (well, stops and starts back and forth). And sometimes vice versa.

In all of those above cases, I will sometimes take it to the band for some further ideas or tweaks, or I might just keep it completely as I wrote it if I think it is solid enough. But usually the band has some great ideas.

Sometimes I have an initial riff, take it to the band, and we develop more music, or an initial lyric, and off we go as a group songwriting session. Those are usually quite fun and satisfying. Sometimes someone else comes up with the riff or chords, and that triggers a writing session.

Sometimes someone has some lyrical ideas scratched together, and asks me, or the band, to develop chords, which leads to a melody, which leads to a group songwriting effort.

Anecdote to illustrate:

Recently the band was working to outline music for a project we are co-developing with another couple of musicians from another band - a musical play (we are all over the place). We realized one "scene" needed a song. So while I was transcribing some notes, and some others were discussing some other points of concern, one of the band members (from my band) sat there quietly and wrote the lyrics for a song in about three minutes.

After presenting the lyrics (which were spot on for the scene), we had him sing through how he might think the melody goes. Two of us from my band got guitars and played along, mixing chords and melody lines to accompany and mimic his singing, and we developed the chords and melody. We ran through it a few times, suggesting tweaks to his melody lines and the chords ("go higher at the end of that verse", "hold that note longer, then go low in the next line", "that needs something like an A, but not a regular A, maybe A7?" etc). We then did a quick recording in the home studio. We had that basic track down about 45 min after he started writing.

Apparently, not everyone works like that - the members from the other band just sat in awe as the frenzy of a Hard To Port songwriting session swirled around them.

And we don't always work like that. But when we do, it is awesome!
 
Oh, and as for my own history of songwriting:

I think I've mentioned this before, but I tried to write songs ever since I started playing guitar in my teens - well, maybe when I was actually good enough to call myself a basic guitar player in my 20s. But I couldn't put six words together that sounded even vaguely interesting, and any music I invented eventually turned out to be fragments of a song I had heard. "Here, listen to this awesome riff and chord progression I wrote!" "Um, that's a song by REM. But it sounds good!"

Well, I suppose the weird experimental instrumental freak-out stuff I did in one garage/basement band was kinda creative, in an early-live-Floyd way. But I wasn't surprised at my lack of quality output - I'd never been a creative-arts "creator", just a mimicker, and had been happy to successfully learn cover songs for my own amusement.

Until about 8 years ago. I had some pretty big changes in my life about then, mostly for the positive, and I think something in my brain finally clicked/broke/short-circuited, and I found I could write reasonably interesting lyrics and music. Working with the band that I had just joined the year before (and still my current band, and my first real band I suppose) helped tremendously.

Now I've got about 12 songs of my own, plus another dozen or so as co-writer, released on the 4 albums we've recorded, and I've got another 5 or more written and recorded for the next album (80% base tracks recorded, but needs a fair bit more re-recording, overdubs, accompaniment, and polish). And another 4 or more for the next album after that "in the queue".

And I have dozens (and dozens) of reasonably-completed songs idling away, not yet suitable for those next two albums, maybe not suitable for the "band". Some written as experiments, or as half-jokes (like the one I wrote in 13/8 just to see if I could).
 
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