Does your sound change over time?

[Texas_minor_blues]

I always thought that was a blues pedal, will it get dirty?

Yes it will get dirty.
There are a few different models. If I recall the original 3 knob version was amazing but it really was dependent on the tube in the pedal. Now there is a 5 knob with a bias control and this one is a little less dirty but still good

Butler Audio

 

[Deleted member 5962]

I play much more through my clean setup lately since my dirt rig is a 100 watt head into a 4x12. Considering grabbing a nice gain pedal like a Friedman BE-OD for the office setup. Anyone have a favorite 80’s rock tone pedal they like?

That’s a good one. The 5150 pedal is very good, and some of the high gain Plexi Wampler pedals are very good.

 

[Deleted member 5962]

I always thought that was a blues pedal, will it get dirty?

It will, but it’s a smooth thing better suited for blues or a solo boost. It’s not a good high gain Marshall type pedal.

 

[bodia]

I play much more through my clean setup lately since my dirt rig is a 100 watt head into a 4x12. Considering grabbing a nice gain pedal like a Friedman BE-OD for the office setup. Anyone have a favorite 80’s rock tone pedal they like?

Old school Boss Heavy Metal pedal

 

[WEDGE]

Old school Boss Heavy Metal pedal

a pedal that does not deserve its bad rep…..totally anyways. It’s an easy way to get a decent tone if you back off the gain some.

 

[Texas_minor_blues]

a pedal that does not deserve its bad rep…..totally anyways. It’s an easy way to get a decent tone if you back off the gain some.

I thought it was the Metal Zone that had the bad rep? The Heavy Metal gets some good metal tones if you play with it some

Anyways to add the conversation. There are times when I find myself completely resetting everything I will plug in straight to amp adjust accordingly then little by little start adding effects till I am happy again with the direction my tone is going. I do this probably every couple of months or whenever I just find myself not quite happy with my tone.

 

[bodia]

a pedal that does not deserve its bad rep…..totally anyways. It’s an easy way to get a decent tone if you back off the gain some.

Totally agree.

 

[JasonE]

I thought it was the Metal Zone that had the bad rep? The Heavy Metal gets some good metal tones if you play with it some

Anyways to add the conversation. There are times when I find myself completely resetting everything I will plug in straight to amp adjust accordingly then little by little start adding effects till I am happy again with the direction my tone is going. I do this probably every couple of months or whenever I just find myself not quite happy with my tone.

This is a good process and a way to save some money. It is always better to reset and explore the tones in the gear we have before buying something else we think is the answer to the problem we perceive. Buying more gear just leads to ending up in the same place eventually because we tire of what we thought was the perfect tone and start over.

 

[CandidPicker]

Clean, mild overdriven crunch, singing harmonic leads. Modulation effects vary notwithstanding. Could be a variety of amps, overdrive and gain stages, and EQ'd tones.

The Jim Lill video describes this well. Prefer to think I am open to new ideas, but often get hit on for info that I don't already have.

 

[Maxime Bousquet]

When we were younger, it was garish and saturated to the max, finesse was far from being a priority, we were just a bunch of guys who wanted to make some noise lol!
Today I became very picky about this or that.. the simple fact of having a different amp an effect or a new guitar brings new ideas so I always liked to evolve with different equipment, that's what allows me to be creative but not always easy on the wallet unfortunately...

 

[WEDGE]

So I got in two pedals and may keep them both since they do what I want with a different flavor from each other. Lovepedal Purple Plexi SE gives a nice Marshall tone but does not quite reach the modded tones like the original Purple Plexi. I do dig the core tone though so will probably will swap up for one. The other is a Mesa Throttle Box which is like a dual rec pedal, but has a low and high gain switch so it can go from heavy chug, to a kind of old school metal tone with one switch. These with my JRockett Gold Archer Ikon should give me enough flavors of dirt for my office rig for me to have some fun with

 

[dankilling]

My tone changes regularly. The guys in my band used to ask what new gear/sounds was I going to try at every rehearsal

 

[dmatthews]

The getter I drunk, the sounder I weird.

 

[andy474x]

When I first got into guitar, it was the Dual Rec era, and then in college I got heavy into SRV, so two totally contrasting sounds there. I still appreciate those sounds, but started to explore other things in about 2010 when my band situation changed, and then since C19 happened and my playing situation changed considerably again, my desired tones have as well. I'm enjoying the cleaner into medium gain tones these days, although I still call up high gain tones on occasion.

But, if I had to distill something consistent about the tone that I want, it would be that there has to be the right presence to the sound and treble articulation, contrasted by appropriate midrange. Much of it ends up coming down to speakers, the amp plays a part too but if the speaker is wrong, there's no fixing it. I need to have enough sparkle to sit well in a track and not sound like the "blanket over the amp" or "far away" guitar tone, treble to bring out single notes clearly, but also needs to have girth to the midrange that keeps the sound from being brittle. It's a fine line. I have high hopes for the HDRX 20 being a good amp for the things I like.

I play much more through my clean setup lately since my dirt rig is a 100 watt head into a 4x12. Considering grabbing a nice gain pedal like a Friedman BE-OD for the office setup. Anyone have a favorite 80’s rock tone pedal they like?

So I got in two pedals and may keep them both since they do what I want with a different flavor from each other. Lovepedal Purple Plexi SE gives a nice Marshall tone but does not quite reach the modded tones like the original Purple Plexi. I do dig the core tone though so will probably will swap up for one. The other is a Mesa Throttle Box which is like a dual rec pedal, but has a low and high gain switch so it can go from heavy chug, to a kind of old school metal tone with one switch. These with my JRockett Gold Archer Ikon should give me enough flavors of dirt for my office rig for me to have some fun with

I know you already grabbed some pedals... but I'm not going to pretend any of us are ever done buying pedals! The BE-OD is a good rhythm pedal, maybe leans more modern than 80's tones, but IMO where it's really at with the Friedman pedals is the Dirty Shirley. The BE-OD has a less prominent midrange, and not adjustable, maybe not fully scooped but definitely thick and not particularly cutting, and just a TON of gain. The Dirty Shirley hits the spot, especially when it comes to great 80's sounds and lead tones for any era. Still has plenty of gain. The Smallbox is a good one too, but definitely sounds like a Plexi no matter what, whereas the DS just kind of melts into your rig, in a good way.

I think the DS got lost in the mix after the BE-OD was the flavor of the week for a while, and then the DS came out just as the commotion of the BE-OD started to die down.

If Friedman released a dual pedal with the BE-OD on one side and the DS on the other... mercy.

My tone has changed a bunch over the years. My first amp was some sort of jacked up fender amp with music man 4x12 cab.

When I joined my 2nd band I had a marshall super lead 100 with marshall 4x12 cab and boss HM2 distortion pedal.............yup......wish I still had it.

Went through several small amps but bought a peavey 5150 half stack. Played that rig for a long long time and sold it right before EVH passed. Ugh

Bought a Mesa Stiletto head and I like it a lot. Pretty versatile. Last year I bought a jcm800 studio head and have been liking it. I just put a 7025 preamp tube in it to tame down the highs and that made a huge difference. My complaint would be that it sounds so much different at low volumes than it does at higher stage volumes. Makes it really hard to build a setup. Right now I use comp, delay, wah and EP booster. That's it, no more rack mount stuff.

I have several cabs to play through to change things up which is kind of nice.

My tone is getting cleaner for sure.

I'd really like to try a Stiletto sometime. I stupidly passed one by about 10 years ago because the guy at the shop told me I wouldn't like it, but the lead sound Andy Timmons got out of the Stilettos when he used them was tops. I'm not saying his tone now is bad, but it hasn't ever been as good as that.

 

[dogrocketp]

Let me elucidate on my first comment. I’m going to be playing the musical”Heathers” soon. I like to think of some of my tone as situational. Nothing congeals with other instruments in the pit better than a PRS. There are other considerations, how big is the band, what is the style of music, ad Nauseum. I’ll use my PRS SE Hollowbody piezo so that I don’t have to deal with another instrument (acoustic) in a tiny space. I justified buying this guitar for these situations. I’ll drag out my Korg G3 processor because it has enough sounds and a very small footprint. The amp will be a small tech 21. When the run is over, I switch to a different axe for a different band and style. While I’d like to think I always have a consistent sound, my tone (and sometimes my style) change to fit the band. I want the sum of the parts to make a greater whole musically.

 

[gush]

When I first got into guitar, it was the Dual Rec era, and then in college I got heavy into SRV, so two totally contrasting sounds there. I still appreciate those sounds, but started to explore other things in about 2010 when my band situation changed, and then since C19 happened and my playing situation changed considerably again, my desired tones have as well. I'm enjoying the cleaner into medium gain tones these days, although I still call up high gain tones on occasion.

But, if I had to distill something consistent about the tone that I want, it would be that there has to be the right presence to the sound and treble articulation, contrasted by appropriate midrange. Much of it ends up coming down to speakers, the amp plays a part too but if the speaker is wrong, there's no fixing it. I need to have enough sparkle to sit well in a track and not sound like the "blanket over the amp" or "far away" guitar tone, treble to bring out single notes clearly, but also needs to have girth to the midrange that keeps the sound from being brittle. It's a fine line. I have high hopes for the HDRX 20 being a good amp for the things I like.





I know you already grabbed some pedals... but I'm not going to pretend any of us are ever done buying pedals! The BE-OD is a good rhythm pedal, maybe leans more modern than 80's tones, but IMO where it's really at with the Friedman pedals is the Dirty Shirley. The BE-OD has a less prominent midrange, and not adjustable, maybe not fully scooped but definitely thick and not particularly cutting, and just a TON of gain. The Dirty Shirley hits the spot, especially when it comes to great 80's sounds and lead tones for any era. Still has plenty of gain. The Smallbox is a good one too, but definitely sounds like a Plexi no matter what, whereas the DS just kind of melts into your rig, in a good way.

I think the DS got lost in the mix after the BE-OD was the flavor of the week for a while, and then the DS came out just as the commotion of the BE-OD started to die down.

If Friedman released a dual pedal with the BE-OD on one side and the DS on the other... mercy.




I'd really like to try a Stiletto sometime. I stupidly passed one by about 10 years ago because the guy at the shop told me I wouldn't like it, but the lead sound Andy Timmons got out of the Stilettos when he used them was tops. I'm not saying his tone now is bad, but it hasn't ever been as good as that.

The Stiletto is a great amp in my opinion. The tonal options that are available is what makes this amp so great.

 

[jxe]

The MEV has become a case queen. It's not really floating my boat anymore.

what! sorry to hear that.

 

[aphantomvaper]

I don't find my tone has changed. Its more the palette of tones I can generate has increased. Perhaps that's due to moving towards transparent amplification so the amps project whatever tone is generated rather than the tone of the specific amp. Its all subjective anyway

 

[Texas_minor_blues]

So I got in two pedals and may keep them both since they do what I want with a different flavor from each other. Lovepedal Purple Plexi SE gives a nice Marshall tone but does not quite reach the modded tones like the original Purple Plexi. I do dig the core tone though so will probably will swap up for one. The other is a Mesa Throttle Box which is like a dual rec pedal, but has a low and high gain switch so it can go from heavy chug, to a kind of old school metal tone with one switch. These with my JRockett Gold Archer Ikon should give me enough flavors of dirt for my office rig for me to have some fun with

Wanted to add that recently I rediscovered the Precision Drive. It has a good range of gain and comes with a built in noise gate. It does get more high end gain when necessary and the tone controls are really responsive. Give it a try!

 

[Gtrbldr]

The Stiletto is a great amp in my opinion. The tonal options that are available is what makes this amp so great.

Had one, sold it. Not because it sounded bad, but it was too big and too loud. It sounded great actually.

However I used to load it down for direct use and used a greenback IR. That really made the amp a whole lot better! The V30 is too spikey for the already bright amp.