Does wood type effect tone

This is the first time in my life that I've seen a quote from Mellencamp in the context of guitars and tone.

Might be a good thing for me that Grissom never took that advice.

But... he... did. ????

You mean good thing Grissom DOES CARE about woods? Interestingly, his first PRSi weren't maple caps... the seafoam green and original goldtop were both all-mahogany...
 
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I took a deep dive into a series of long video interviews of Santa Cruz Guitars' owner/designer/builder, Richard Hoover, who gets into the weeds about guitar making in great depth.

They were done by Premier Guitar's John Bohlinger. It was fascinating.

I'm not interested in arguing about someone else's ideas. I'm sharing this because I found it extremely interesting. You don't have to agree. It's simply stuff to think about, explained by a master.

For those who haven't played one, Santa Cruz are acoustic guitars that start at Private Stock cost and go up into the stratosphere. They're fantastic guitars.

Whether you like, dislike, buy into, or don't buy into Hoover's ideas about guitar making, they're certainly worth a listen since (like Paul R. Smith) the man has devoted his life to high-end wooden instruments and has learned a lot over many. many years.

Of particular interest to me was this video about things I never thought were important - lots of unexpected info!


Among the tidbits:

Hoover uses wood bindings and other trim pieces, not just because they're pretty, but because he finds the edges of the top, where it joins the guitar and where bindings sit, have an effect on the sound; wood bindings in that critical area work better sonically/inhibit the vibration of the top less than plastic.

He also uses violin-makers' tricks in the kerfing inside the body to transfer the sound to the sides and back differently. This is apparently unusual.

He feels that a nitrocellulose finish is best because nitrocellulose is a wood product (hence the 'cellulose'). He finds it reacts to vibration with the wood instead of inhibiting the wood. I hadn't thought of it that way; I just prefer nitro. Maybe that's why.

In Hoover's world, the most important tone is what projects to the audience and mic, as opposed to guitars that are made to sound impressive to the player sitting behind the instrument (I should point out that they also sound great to the player, IMHO).

All in all, interesting points of view. The series is both recent and very much worth the watch if you're into the arcana of making guitars, and the things that pieces of wood do for tone.
I’ve never heard anyone with a brain say, my guitar doesn’t quite sound right, would you put some more plastic on it?
 
I’ve never heard anyone with a brain say, my guitar doesn’t quite sound right, would you put some more plastic on it?
But then there are the Rickenbackers...

The double plastic pick guards are part of that jangle thing. Take only the top one off, and the guitar sounds a little different!

I had to send a defective top pick guard to Rick to get them to replace the part, and the guitar didn't sound quite right until I got the new part reinstalled. So that's the one case where I can honestly say, "Give me more plastic."

:)
 
Other than the folks who believe polyurethane impacts tone . . .
Based on playing since 1967, and owning lots and lots of guitars, I think it does.

Not saying it's always bad. It just makes a guitar sound a little bit different, and it's certainly subtle.

So throw me in that briar patch, Bre'r Rabbit.
 
Based on playing since 1967, and owning lots and lots of guitars, I think it does.

Not saying it's always bad. It just makes a guitar sound a little bit different, and it's certainly subtle.

So throw me in that briar patch, Bre'r Rabbit.

I can't argue that one way or the other, but I do prefer the durability of poly over that of nitro. Especially when you're dealing with the gorgeous tops PRS has. On a goldtop or other solid color, it doesn't matter. But you don't spend $5000+ on a yellow tiger flame to allow it to "relic" from heavy use. *I* don't anyway.
 
I have seen the online debates about this topic which seem to be as pitched as the debates about tonewood. I shudder to think of combining a tonewood AND a topcoat debate into one thread.

From my perspective playing stringed instruments made of plastic, aluminum, carbon fiber, graphite, (and even wood instruments!), with and without bodies and headstocks the differences fall into the category of being at or below the limits of detection.

When you throw it into a mix in a recording or on stage, even more so. Add in the ability to manipulate the sound with effects and the differences disappear for practical purposes. The materials make a much bigger difference to stability, playability, durability and aesthetics, in my view.

Speaking of which, I have my eye on my retirement piano and just found out they are working on a carbon fiber version. I could even keep that piano on a houseboat or turn it into a houseboat!!

Unlike other topics, choice of materials for musical instruments is not a life or death matter and we can all just follow the muse.
 
well then there's the aluminum necks ... .Travis Bean ( Garcia) Messenger ( Mark Farner -Grand Funk) Kramer ...

unusual tone . very distinctive ..better than a Braz neck ? up to the player
 
I have an aluminum 10-String Railboard Chapman Stick (used in this Jeff Beck tribute piece -
). It is heavier than my Bamboo 12-String Grand Stick and feels completely different (the frets are machined into the instrument and spacing between the strings is much different). The instrument is essentially just a neck. I have no worries about leaving it in a hot or cold car. I have not tried cooking with it yet.
 
I got to see Emmett Chapman in Berkeley when he first introduced the Stick , he was a sweet and very gifted musician and craftsman. He passed 4 years ago ..
Emmett was a wonderful person, player and creator of instruments. I was at his home (aka Stick Enterprises) dropping off and picking a Stick for repair and spent time with him at a Seminar years ago. I had the honor of accepting an award for the Stick on his behalf in the UK and perform on the BBC. As the video shows he was an amazing player!!
 
somehow I doubt you'd get this tone out of plywood ...
Sounds beautiful! I think the wood makes a much bigger difference for acoustic tone - especially live in the room. Carbon fiber works too and it will double as an oar. I had one of these for a while. The bass notes in particular are amazing in person.
 
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Sounds beautiful! I think the wood makes a much bigger difference for acoustic tone - especially live in the room. Carbon fiber works too and it will double as an oar. I had one of these for a while. The bass notes in particular are amazing in person.
What made you part ways with that instrument? I have been lusting for an Emerald for some time (but not that one, way too complicated for me at this time)! Any thoughts on Emerald acoustics in general and/or things you liked/not liked about it or others you have had? Thanks for any insight you have on that topic ;~))
 
What made you part ways with that instrument? I have been lusting for an Emerald for some time (but not that one, way too complicated for me at this time)! Any thoughts on Emerald acoustics in general and/or things you liked/not liked about it or others you have had? Thanks for any insight you have on that topic ;~))
I have two Emeralds - an X10 and an Amicus and they are great instruments in all respects and highly recommended. The Synergy was too much for me and I sold it and bought a Stick Guitqr SG12. One day, I may take the plunge again. Here is something I recorded with the Amicus.
 
I have two Emeralds - an X10 and an Amicus and they are great instruments in all respects and highly recommended. The Synergy was too much for me and I sold it and bought a Stick Guitqr SG12. One day, I may take the plunge again. Here is something I recorded with the Amicus.
WOW! Great piece!! Thanks for sharing that and the info on your Emerald experience, much appreciated ;~))
 
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