Does anyone else think the S2s would be better off with a different carve?

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  1. Steve_Chryssos

    Steve_Chryssos Enthusiast

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    The carve -- front and back -- on my S2 Mira fits better than any other guitar I have sampled. Feels good. Looks good. I bought the guitar sight-unseen, so I'm very happy with the result. I'll wait until I can play an S2 Singlecut before commenting.

    Give me a magic wand and I would conjure up an S2 408.
     
  2. Bob Sherwood

    Bob Sherwood New Member

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    My evolution with PRS:
    About a year ago: Bought a SE Santana...traded in a Mex Strat. I thought this Santana is the best guitar I have had...even better than my Les Paul Custom.
    So . . . . .
    I bought a SE Custom 24...liked it even better than the Santana
    So ......
    I traded for a S2 custom 24. I thought this had to be better than the SE Custom 24.
    So.....after playing the S2 a while I tried out a CORE model.
    So...
    It didn't take me long to get rid of the S2 and the LP for a real Maryland Custom 24. It's like comparing a bicycle to a harley. I still have the SE Custom 24 and the Santana and use them from time to time, but the CORE is night and day difference. I really do think the S2 is just a SE on steroids.
     
  3. Raymond

    Raymond New Member

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    I've played with my brother in law's SE Santana, I have a CU24 (in sig).

    It's night and day difference, I mean they both play great but the Core PRS is just better in every way.

    I have a ZM limited coming this summer so I can do a even more indepth comparison. But I think for the money the SE are extremely good guitars.

    Side note, I was going to get a S2 as my second PRS but the S2 starts at £1,000 here, £1200 with birds inlay. You can get an SE between £550 to £750. The £550-600 SE is decent value and I don't see the point getting a £750 SE model when the S2 can be had for £300 more.
     
  4. Todd_FindingMyWay

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    Carefull, you might insult the bicycle.. ;-)

    When I do jump an American PRS, it will be into the core line..
     
  5. OperatorAce

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    FYI, the carve on the SEs is totally different from the bevels on the S2s.
     
  6. Zephyr

    Zephyr New Member

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    The carve is what stopped me from getting a S2 over a SE. I was hoping for a SE or dare I say a G - brand carve on the S2's. Another major disappointment was the neck heal on the singlecut's, some guys might like it shorter, but I can't get it out of my head that it was a shortcut to cut cost, and the thinner maple top makes it well........Negative Ghost Rider.
     
  7. Felix

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    IMO they are ugly; however they look comfortable, and there are lots of people out there who prefer accessibility and functionality over looks; I am kind of shallow that way.

    But the reason I love my CE-22 and Hollowbody II are the tones I can get on them (to me the HBII sounds like a child with a well-trained but slightly throaty, husky voice singing loudly in a smaller room; the CE is like a more powerful singer -a smoother and more muscular voice- in a larger venue); the Hollowbody is not as comfortable because the back is not only arched (not a huge problem for me, as I am more concave than convex), but has a ridge running around it. I play it a lot because I love the 57/08s, but it could be more ergonomic!

    That is where I see the S2s being important for the company: they look and are reported to be very comfortable and well-balanced, and they are accessibly priced. Will I try one? No; as I said, I love the tones of the "real deal"... and I am simply shallow that way. Seems a good thing for PRS re acceptance on a wider scale, however.
     
  8. OperatorAce

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    This doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure from what other people have said, and my own experience, that they sound identical to the core lineup - they just don't look as good.
     
  9. Felix

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    IMO, two guitars of the same make and model -and even year and maker- often sound very different; it is not just the pups; it is the whole of it being an instrument, physical and electrical, and the filtering and the resonances and every other variable which goes into being a good instrument, or an average or not-so-good one. I do not think that my HB II with its hollow body and 57/08TM pups or my CE with its Dragon IIs would sound anything like the S models... but I have not heard them A/Bed through the same gear, so I could not say for sure. Those with more experience than I have in this area have told me that the S line sounds "thinner" than the Core models, and similar comments, but this could be a willing placebo type reaction from people who have Core Line models. I have heard the S line, but only on other people's amps, which of course will sound at the very least somewhat different from mine. -Even if the amps are of the same year and make.
     
  10. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    So true.
     
  11. Felix

    Felix New Member

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    I remember reading that Billy Gibbons said that he had 45 Plexis and they all sounded different, one from another. I am (distantly) upset with him for selling his Trainwreck, "Sarah".
     
  12. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Because he can. ;)
     
  13. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    I'm fine with the carve, it's just a continuation of Joe Knaggs "thing" he did with the original EG model. The blade switch is another story.... :evil:
     
  14. claythomas

    claythomas Nothing but the best!

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    We jumped on them at the store I work . We still have the 4 Custom 24's,1 Mira, and 2 Starlas. We have sold 1 starla,though. I,personally feel the option of a wide-thin neck carve would help. Some of the customers were a little put off because they don't come with a hardshell case; which we would think at that price point they would.
    I have been playing PRS' since 1988 and I really like the S2 line,but with the economy right now, we need all the help we can get.
     
  15. NomadMike

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    But is PRS shooting for current PRS customers or guys like me who were "anything but PRS"?
     
  16. Jedi

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    For me personally, I don't care for the look.
     
  17. idj

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    I like the bevel cut on the S2s, that's one of the things that convinced me to buy mine.

    I must admit that I prefer a nice, smooth carved top like some other PRS models, but I don't think I'd like the S2 as much with a flat top. The wood grain, finished as it is on my guitar, grabbed me and dragged me in - I really liked it! I couldn't be happier with the guitar. The bevel added to it. If it were a smooth carved, perhaps that would enhance it, but I don't think I would have bought a flat-top, no matter the sound. For me it's a combination of features, looks and tone. I already have flat tops with great tone. I wanted something different, and PRS is known for that, and for the great quality of their instruments.

    Just my $0.02...
     
  18. FennRx

    FennRx PRS Convert

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    I must be the an anomaly. I didn't detect any difference in tone or feel with the s2 cu24 and the se. The only reason to buy one IMHO is to be able to say you have a USA prs.

    As for the core models, I've owned an se 245 and currently own a sc245. While I like the core more, there is no way I'd pay 5 times the cost of the se. Maybe I'm just not refined enough to tell the difference. But being a Gibson historic snob I have some experience in discerning the differences between the lower end models and the quality instruments.
     
  19. gball

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    The S2 line is not for everyone, but I find the Mira to be the best all-mahogany doublecut guitar I have ever played. It is also arguably the most comfortable guitar I have every played and I actually prefer the look to the original. I've owned slab-bodied Gibsons over the years and they are nowhere near as nice to play, so I am quite happy with the shape of the Mira.
     
  20. FennRx

    FennRx PRS Convert

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    agreed. i've only played one Mira and it was fantastic. I was very interested in the S2 Mira as well, but I was too enamored with a SC.
     

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