Do you use an overdrive pedal for your rock lead sounds?

I had a really nice pedal that I loved. It was called A Box of Rocks. I changed amps and bought a boutique amp. I have no need for a pedal board at this time. I had fun with it though. I won’t ever get rid of this pedal. It has sentimental value as well.
 
I had a really nice pedal that I loved. It was called A Box of Rocks. I changed amps and bought a boutique amp. I have no need for a pedal board at this time. I had fun with it though. I won’t ever get rid of this pedal. It has sentimental value as well.
One of the best “amp in a box” pedals ever made. ZVEX makes legendary pedals.
 
One of the best “amp in a box” pedals ever made. ZVEX makes legendary pedals.

I found this pedal in one of my “guitar stuff” boxes. One of the pedals in the chain on my pedal board had become detached and I couldn’t figure out what was going on. I just put everything in a box when I bought my Katana amp. I am going to check it out today. I just got sick and tired of lugging this around with my other stuff and my guitar on the train for rehearsal as well. It just got to be overwhelming.
 
I had a really nice pedal that I loved. It was called A Box of Rocks. I changed amps and bought a boutique amp. I have no need for a pedal board at this time. I had fun with it though. I won’t ever get rid of this pedal. It has sentimental value as well.
I‘ve never played one, but heard that pedal is really good.
 
Stacked Zendrives FTW

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Omg I am sitting here not even realizing that my son bought me a pedal board that goes with my Katana amp AND it has a looper on it. Why I am realizing that atm I don’t even know? I need that! When I get home from work today(I don’t even want to go back now) I am on a mission for this. I can’t even remember where the heck it is. 14 months and counting. I honestly didn’t think I could handle being at home but I am loving it. Never a boring minute in my day! Always stuff to do! But naps whenever you want? That a great selling point for me personally.
 
It all depends on the amp. My Fenders for sure need pedals, particularly the Twin. The Vox I can get away without them depending on the gig levels and the Supro is the same.

But the 20w Dumble-ish amp I don't use anything in the front for OD because the amp does it quite well.
Yes it certainly does, exceptionally well:cool:
 
Omg I am sitting here not even realizing that my son bought me a pedal board that goes with my Katana amp AND it has a looper on it. Why I am realizing that atm I don’t even know? I need that! When I get home from work today(I don’t even want to go back now) I am on a mission for this. I can’t even remember where the heck it is. 14 months and counting. I honestly didn’t think I could handle being at home but I am loving it. Never a boring minute in my day! Always stuff to do! But naps whenever you want? That a great selling point for me personally.
The Looper is an amazing practice tool and a method to capture original composition! You will enjoy this, Lola.
 
I bought a new pedal on Friday and I blame this thread for it. I found out that there was a germanium version of the Keeley Red Dirt. I had somehow missed this pedal. I have the regular and germanium version of the OCD and thought I needed to have both of the Red Dirt. It will be here some time this week. Thanks for pushing me over the edge with the pedal talk... :)
 
99% Of The Time I Prefer The Right Amp Over A Pedal. I Play On The Heavy Side Of The Tone Spectrum and I Use 4x12's. In Those Situations I Find My Amps Deliver Better And More Organic High Gain Sounds Than Any Of My Pedals Going Through A Clean Amp As A Base. At Bedroom Volume And For Practicing And Just Wanting To Play For A While I Could Easily Be Happy With A Clean(Ish) Amp And A Pedal For Gain. There Are A Lot Of Nice Pedals Available. For Me, The Heavier The Tones And The Louder The Volume Being Played Will Steer Me Away From Dirt/Gain Pedals. I Always Find The Right Amp To Work Better For Me In Those Situations. I May Throw A Parametric EQ in Or A Boost Of Some Sort TO Tighten The Low End Only But Not To Add Gain....And Even In That Scenario, It Is Rare On The Majority Of My Amps. For Me, The Less Sonic Additions The Better. YMMV
 
99% Of The Time I Prefer The Right Amp Over A Pedal. I Play On The Heavy Side Of The Tone Spectrum and I Use 4x12's. In Those Situations I Find My Amps Deliver Better And More Organic High Gain Sounds Than Any Of My Pedals Going Through A Clean Amp As A Base. At Bedroom Volume And For Practicing And Just Wanting To Play For A While I Could Easily Be Happy With A Clean(Ish) Amp And A Pedal For Gain. There Are A Lot Of Nice Pedals Available. For Me, The Heavier The Tones And The Louder The Volume Being Played Will Steer Me Away From Dirt/Gain Pedals. I Always Find The Right Amp To Work Better For Me In Those Situations. I May Throw A Parametric EQ in Or A Boost Of Some Sort TO Tighten The Low End Only But Not To Add Gain....And Even In That Scenario, It Is Rare On The Majority Of My Amps. For Me, The Less Sonic Additions The Better. YMMV
I just noticed your tag on your profile. SOA fan?
 
This week I've been having fun with three Klons!

I've had a Klon KTR since they came out.

But I added a little Wampler Tumnus and liked it so much I got the Tumnus Deluxe w/Bass, Mid and Treble controls.

All three are currently on my board with no other drive pedals.

Comparing them, I can get most of the Klon KTR tone by adjusting all of the controls on the Tumnus Deluxe to sound a lot like my Klon KTR, but it never sounds exactly like it. There's a transparency, clarity and purity to the real Klon that i haven't been able to duplicate with the Tumnus Deluxe.

But using the little Tumnus into either the Tumnus Deluxe or Klon KTR gets a soaring rock soloing tone!

The Klons don't do actual Fuzz tho. No Big Muff or Fuzzface tones.

So I'll be putting my Dover Drive back on the board eventually for those Eric Johnson violin tones. They need a slight amount of fuzz.

 
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99% Of The Time I Prefer The Right Amp Over A Pedal. I Play On The Heavy Side Of The Tone Spectrum and I Use 4x12's. In Those Situations I Find My Amps Deliver Better And More Organic High Gain Sounds Than Any Of My Pedals Going Through A Clean Amp As A Base. At Bedroom Volume And For Practicing And Just Wanting To Play For A While I Could Easily Be Happy With A Clean(Ish) Amp And A Pedal For Gain. There Are A Lot Of Nice Pedals Available. For Me, The Heavier The Tones And The Louder The Volume Being Played Will Steer Me Away From Dirt/Gain Pedals. I Always Find The Right Amp To Work Better For Me In Those Situations. I May Throw A Parametric EQ in Or A Boost Of Some Sort TO Tighten The Low End Only But Not To Add Gain....And Even In That Scenario, It Is Rare On The Majority Of My Amps. For Me, The Less Sonic Additions The Better. YMMV
I don't play heavy music, I'm an 'edge of breakup' player, but I completely agree. Sure, there are times I use pedals (I've said many times I occasionally use them at very low settings for a different color),

I'm more of a melodic player, not a chugger, shredder, or djent person.

Developing a melodic line involves not only hitting the right notes, and whatever legato or detache playing is called for, it also involves varying dynamics, building energy or reducing it as the melody moves along. For me, that's more expressive than having only one dynamic.

I buy an amp for its sensitivity to nuance and dynamic range. It works the way I work.

The concern I've always had about overdrive pedals is that as transistors clip, they over-compress the signal and tend to kill dynamic range.

For me, that ruins the things I bought the amp for. Stacked pedals, for example, become so heavily compressed that for me - YMMV - that technique is not desirable.

While a distorted tube also tends to compress a signal, it's got a different vibe, and retains more dynamics - a well-designed overdriven amp retains its feel.

Certainly, compression isn't always a bad thing, but most of the time I want to keep my amp's dynamic range intact.

Of course, the beauty of being a musician and anything in the arts, really, is that it's all personal; it's all about the individual player's vision and preference for self-expression. That means everyone is right in their own preferences. My thinking only applies to me, and I share the thinking only to say, 'consider this possibility'. :)
 
I don't play heavy music, I'm an 'edge of breakup' player, but I completely agree. Sure, there are times I use pedals (I've said many times I occasionally use them at very low settings for a different color),

I'm more of a melodic player, not a chugger, shredder, or djent person.

Developing a melodic line involves not only hitting the right notes, and whatever legato or detache playing is called for, it also involves varying dynamics, building energy or reducing it as the melody moves along. For me, that's more expressive than having only one dynamic.

I buy an amp for its sensitivity to nuance and dynamic range. It works the way I work.

The concern I've always had about overdrive pedals is that as transistors clip, they over-compress the signal and tend to kill dynamic range.

For me, that ruins the things I bought the amp for. Stacked pedals, for example, become so heavily compressed that for me - YMMV - that technique is not desirable.

While a distorted tube also tends to compress a signal, it's got a different vibe, and retains more dynamics - a well-designed overdriven amp retains its feel.

Certainly, compression isn't always a bad thing, but most of the time I want to keep my amp's dynamic range intact.

Of course, the beauty of being a musician and anything in the arts, really, is that it's all personal; it's all about the individual player's vision and preference for self-expression. That means everyone is right in their own preferences. My thinking only applies to me, and I share the thinking only to say, 'consider this possibility'. :)
Agree 100%

For Me...The Quickest And Easiest Way For Me To Achieve My Desired Outcome Using As Few Tools As Possible Along The Way Is What I Have Learned Works Best For Me (Through Many Years Of Trial And Error).
 
Agree 100%

For Me...The Quickest And Easiest Way For Me To Achieve My Desired Outcome Using As Few Tools As Possible Along The Way Is What I Have Learned Works Best For Me (Through Many Years Of Trial And Error).
That's a great approach.

Many of us tend to use too much processing, and I certainly have been guilty of it myself in my studio work. Throw this on, it sounds great! Oh that one, too. Etc. Before I know it, I've gotten awfully far from musicality.

In the early days when I got into the business, I used tape, a console, and a few choice pieces of gear to control dynamics on at most, vocals or solo instruments, add a bit of reverb, etc. Some of my recordings from those days are so much more dynamic and listenable.

I'm doing my best to rediscover a minimalist approach, because it's just...well, often...a better choice than 'more is more'.
 
But I added a little mini Wampler Tumnus and liked it so much I got the full size one.
I'd appreciate your review of those two when you've had some time with them. I've heard both that the tonal flexibility of the Deluxe makes it better, and that the added circuitry takes away some of the purity of tone that the smaller version has. Thoughts?
 
I'd appreciate your review of those two when you've had some time with them. I've heard both that the tonal flexibility of the Deluxe makes it better, and that the added circuitry takes away some of the purity of tone that the smaller version has. Thoughts?
They each have a different vibe. I do prefer the Tumnus Deluxe over the little Tumnus because using my Klon KTR as a model I can dial in a very similar tone by using all of the controls on the Deluxe.

I don't have enough adjustment to do that on the little Tumnus, but it has its own thing and sounds great on it's own.

It has a certain personality and attitude and I like it.

The Deluxe is more versatile and there are more tones in it.

Right now I'm using the little Tumnus to drive my Tumnus Deluxe or Klon KTR when I want a little more. It's my "More" pedal.
 
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I should actually try to put my pedal board together. It’s just sitting there looking pretty sad. I am smart enough to figure it out I think. Gotta give it a go. If all else fails I will just take it to my local guitar store and get them to do it. This board has some amazing pedals on it. One pedal is crazy. I can’t remember the name of it. The amazing sounds like cop cars, train whistles etc . I used to sit there and experiment. It was so much fun. I really loved taking this out and playing with it back a couple of years ago.
 
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