Considering pulling the trigger on a 20th Anniversary Singlecut, but I’m concerned about its condition. Thoughts?

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So I love my Singlecut Satin Trem and I have been on the lookout for another one as backup. Or because of GAS, it doesn’t matter.

Turns out the Satin Trems are quite rare, but a 20th anniversary gloss model in emerald showed up in Japan, and since I adore the finish, I am looking at it ever so closely.

However, its condition is not great. See pictures below. I am not particularly worried about the buckle rush, but it appears that someone drilled a pickguard hole on the top? Has anyone ever seen such madness?

https://imgur.com/fz8lc8Q
https://imgur.com/MCeY55z

They want the equivalent of ~US$2250 for it.
 
2,250 including shipping (with transport insurance)?

In terms of an alleged mounted pickguard: How about a second hole in the edge?
Regardless: A lot of LP owners ripped off their guards. Do that holes affect the function and tone of the guitar? Nope.

As mentioned it was played, a played guitar is a loved guitar.
And I don't understand the hate towards Kirk Hammett owning Greeny.
He doesn't store it in a safe for the rest of his live, the guitar is being used for what it's designed: Making music.

25th PRS anniverary was 2010.
Funny is, 20th anniversary was in 2005. But you find guitars on sale as 20th anniversaries manufactured in 2006 and 2007...

Anyhow. The price is too high.
In the published pricelists from this production years I can't find prices for the SC 20th Anniversary model.
However. I took a look into a 2006th official dealer pricelist. The purchasing department of a dealer needed to pay PRS with approx. 1,900 USD for a 10 Top (flamed maple) SC Trem. By catalog the retail of a 10 Top (flamed maple) SC Trem in 2007 was 3,850 USD.
The current price is at the average level for used average guitars (40% of retail price), but especially the wear (including the drilled hole(s)) should asked for a little bit more price reduction.

I would ask max. 2,000 USD inkl. all transaction costs (despite your customs/taxes).
 
I think it’s a reasonable price. Used guitars are priced relative to similar used guitars, which has nothing to do with a price list from two decades ago.

The birds in flight inlays are fun.

A little finish clouding isn’t a big deal, to me. When I buy a guitar I know if I’m buying with an eye to flipping it or keeping it. If you’re thinking long-term keeper, then buy with knowing what matters to you.

The pick guard screw hole wouldn’t be an issue for me, either. I wonder if the hole and the clouding are related.
 
A check of the pricelist is a good starting point to put the offer/expectation of the seller in relation to retail price as it was new.

Neither the model nor the anniversary line of birds are highly requested. But every seller seem to consider his guitar a 59 LP.

Feel free to support inflation.
 
Maertl513 said:
2,250 including shipping (with transport insurance)?

In terms of an alleged mounted pickguard: How about a second hole in the edge?
Regardless: A lot of LP owners ripped off their guards. Do that holes affect the function and tone of the guitar? Nope.
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No that’s the price of the guitar as advertised. I think with shipping and taxes it would end up to be $2,6k. Unfortunately, that’s one of the issues with living in Australia. But yeah, the price is too high right now, but they have already dropped it once and I am monitoring it to see if it gets lower. I paid around $2,2 for my Singlecut and I am happy with it, but this would be a backup (I had the chance to buy a Tremonti for just a tad more and decided to skip it because it’s too much money for a backup).

RC Mike said:
A little finish clouding isn’t a big deal, to me. When I buy a guitar I know if I’m buying with an eye to flipping it or keeping it. If you’re thinking long-term keeper, then buy with knowing what matters to you.

The pick guard screw hole wouldn’t be an issue for me, either. I wonder if the hole and the clouding are related.
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Yeah I’m definitely a flipper, although I’m starting to settle down on 3 guitars. The hole would bother me and would make reselling it a bit difficult. Wish I could try it.

It probably isn’t meant to be in the end, GAS is such a b*tch haha
 
Though (as a potential) buyer we act with the preference being cost efficient. Bang for the buck. As sellers we wear Rockefeller glasses. The more gain is better. And frequently we overrate worth.

Guitars are economic goods - but there is aswell a not to underestimate moment of emotion (heart & soul & mind triangle), which drives priorities. And price efficency then changes position from Prio 1 to Prio n+1.

And swimming in a PRS pond we all know, that we could get brand new stage capable guitars by Harley Benton - but we don't spend 150 USD for a HB, but 5k on a PRS.


Hence @Spiattalo, if this particular guitar makes you wet dreams and if the price is within your budget without a sweating forehead, pull the trigger. (Though I recommend to try to drop the price.)
 
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the buckle rash on the back wouldnt bother me at all. the screw hole would be suboptimal but not a deal breaker, especially since a toothpick, some glue, and a green marker would hide it. looks is the last thong i care abput after playbility and tone.

have you tried to negotiate the price down to your desired range? perhaps the buyer would just take the deal to jave the cash now rather than wait to lower the price
 
Negotiate. Offer what you think it’s worth, buy it if he gets there, move along if he doesn’t.

If I’ve played a guitar and it’s got that “I can’t put it down” thing going on, it might make me consider a slightly higher price. Absent that experience, it’s best to set your price and stick with it. You’ve already got a great one to play until you find a “right” one!
 
As someone who has recently sold some guitars, that price is way too high considering condition. In the USA that guitar might retail for 1600-1800. Prices are in the toilet right now. I've been watching a 2019 mint DGT at it didn't sell at 2299. I have a nearly unplayed condition CU22 with original dragon 1 pickups and I cant get any bites at 1900.
 
dirtbiker427 said:
As someone who has recently sold some guitars, that price is way too high considering condition. In the USA that guitar might retail for 1600-1800. Prices are in the toilet right now. I've been watching a 2019 mint DGT at it didn't sell at 2299. I have a nearly unplayed condition CU22 with original dragon 1 pickups and I cant get any bites at 1900.
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A three-minute reality check is in order. At the two largest retail chains, there are six Singlecut Trems on the market. They range from $1,900 to $2,800. Most are around $2,500. That’s what the actual retail prices are today, with actual guitars at actual retailers.
 
And they are sitting for months. I'm on nearly every large retailer daily and the same guitars are there for months on end. They have to in excellent condition to bring top market prices and that one (while an excellent player) won't bring top dollar.

For example at GC I bought a near mint 16 CU24 for 1800. Even gibson is feeling it with new Standards in the high teens.

There are tons on really nice guitars available right now. Just wait it out until the right one comes along.
 
dirtbiker427 said:
And they are sitting for months. I'm on nearly every large retailer daily and the same guitars are there for months on end. They have to in excellent condition to bring top market prices and that one (while an excellent player) won't bring top dollar.

For example at GC I bought a near mint 16 CU24 for 1800. Even gibson is feeling it with new Standards in the high teens.

There are tons on really nice guitars available right now. Just wait it out until the right one comes along.
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Sage advice. I waited and watched for 5 years before I found my Santana.
 
dirtbiker427 said:
And they are sitting for months. I'm on nearly every large retailer daily and the same guitars are there for months on end. They have to in excellent condition to bring top market prices and that one (while an excellent player) won't bring top dollar.

For example at GC I bought a near mint 16 CU24 for 1800. Even gibson is feeling it with new Standards in the high teens.

There are tons on really nice guitars available right now. Just wait it out until the right one comes along.
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Never the less, those are the actual retail prices. Making things up helps no one.
 
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