Cholesterol

[watelessness]

i had a similar problem last year. even got a nice scar on my wrist from the heart catheter. yay! so i practically cut out pork and beef, and upped my veggie intake. and i started a statin. sigh. a year later all my numbers are excellent which was a surprise because i cant pass up a bag of ruffles.

 

[Bogner]

I’m sorry but there is a lot of misinformation here, and by spreading it you may harm people, who are in fact need of treatment for their cholesterol levels, by making them fear the medication and not the disease (or risk for disease).

The reason recommended cholesterol levels have been pushed lower over time is that the link between high levels and disease is extremely strong and it has been shown that pushing the levels lower and lower will decrease the risk of disease occuring or progressing.
Statins and other cholesterol lowering drugs are one of the big revolutions in medicine, having saved countless people from premature death and suffering from disease. Yes, some will experience side effects but most only mild side effects that can either be managed or will disappear when switching to a different drug. All drugs that do anything will have possible side effects.
You are right that there is a link between cholesterol and dementia and other health issues. They all increase with increasing cholesterol levels. There is no proof high cholesterol levels will combat anything. There is lots of proof for the opposite.

I know this is a guitar forum but internet posts and rumors like this kill people. I see patients who have bought in to misinformation like this almost weekly and not too long ago I had a 55 year old father of rather small children come in with a major stroke, despite knowing his cholesterol levels were high but refusing treatment out of fear of side effects. His life is over. The children pretty much lost their father. What will follow for them is financial ruin and sorrow. It could easily have been prevented. It’s so damn sad.

I Invite You To Really Dig Deep And Do Your Own Research. Nothing I Say Is Inaccurate. Those In The Pocket Of Big Pharma (Like You It Appears) Will Likely Disagree Because That Is The Mantra That Is Being Pushed. Its A Business To Them. There Is No Interest In Curing People, Simply Treating Symptoms Because There Is No Money In Cures. Break Out Of The Big Pharma Echo Chamber And There Is Plenty Of Proven Information From Very Proper Doctors Who Will Disagree With You And Align With What I Am Saying On The Issue. I Encourage Everybody Facing Anything To Really Do Their Own Research From Many Different Sources On Many Different Search Engines And Books, Studies, Etc. And Come To A Decision They Are Comfortable With. There Are Many Things People Can Do And Steps They Can Take To Improve Their Overall Health. Stop Microwaving Your Food. Stop Cooking With Aluminum Foil. Stop Cooking With Non Stick Pots And Pans. There Are A Million Things Making People Sick. Do The Research...Don't Just Blindly "Trust The Science" Because We All Know Now That Was Bull$h1t. I Encourage You To Look Into The Doctors I Mentioned (And There Are More If You Care To Dig A Little Bit) And You Will Quickly See Things Differently.

 

[Prs Mods too]

My Advice Is Get Away From Big Pharma On All Counts. Cholesterol Meds Cause All Kinds Of Problems. Over The Years The "Healthy" Cholesterol Numbers Being Pushed Have Gotten Lower And Lower And Over Time More And More Disease Keeps Occurring. There Is A Bridge Between Cholesterol And Dementia, Alzheimer's And Many Other Issues...Meaning You Need Cholesterol To Combat Those Things. Lack Of Cholesterol Causes Those Things Or Is A Link To Them. Get Off Almonds As Well. Organic Peanuts Will Be Far Better For You Than Almonds. Check Out Dr. Judy Mikovits, Dr. Gary Brecka And Barbara O'Neill.

I’m sorry but there is a lot of misinformation here, and by spreading it you may harm people, who are in fact need of treatment for their cholesterol levels, by making them fear the medication and not the disease (or risk for disease).

The reason recommended cholesterol levels have been pushed lower over time is that the link between high levels and disease is extremely strong and it has been shown that pushing the levels lower and lower will decrease the risk of disease occuring or progressing.
Statins and other cholesterol lowering drugs are one of the big revolutions in medicine, having saved countless people from premature death and suffering from disease. Yes, some will experience side effects but most only mild side effects that can either be managed or will disappear when switching to a different drug. All drugs that do anything will have possible side effects.
You are right that there is a link between cholesterol and dementia and other health issues. They all increase with increasing cholesterol levels. There is no proof high cholesterol levels will combat anything. There is lots of proof for the opposite.

I know this is a guitar forum but internet posts and rumors like this kill people. I see patients who have bought in to misinformation like this almost weekly and not too long ago I had a 55 year old father of rather small children come in with a major stroke, despite knowing his cholesterol levels were high but refusing treatment out of fear of side effects. His life is over. The children pretty much lost their father. What will follow for them is financial ruin and sorrow. It could easily have been prevented. It’s so damn sad.

Looks like I need that zipper mouth emoji that I can't find. Second time tonight.

 

[SinSir]

My weight 48.53 kg x 1.6 grams of protein = 77.64. I actually think I need more to build muscle. My son suggest 1 gram per pound of body weight which would equal 112 lbs x 1.0grams of protein = 112 grams of protein.

My diet is super clean. Lots of protein rich veggies. Tofu is my main source of protein. No junk period except no name chips cheap and gluten free.I hate tuna but have to eat it. Everything is gluten free ir lactose free or both.

I found some lactose free butter and I could eat it all day long. It’s a little sweeter than normal it’s so damned good. Bye bye to butter. I think this was very bad for me personally to find this. There was barely any toast just a sea of butter. I have never tasted anything this good that is lactose free.

I have lost so much muscle mass it’s pathetic from being so sick over the last two years. I used have really nice arms, legs and a super strong core. Really defined with lots of muscle. Just trying to get back there. I workout so hard that it’s frustrating not to see the gains I expect from myself.

Your son is correct. 1g of protien per pound, but I'll add 1g of protein per pound you'd like to be not that you are. Building muscle protien is crucial. As far as eggs, there's a lot of good vitamins and nutrients in the yolk. I'd suggest to add egg whites to a couple full eggs. More protien and essential vitamins. Eggs are good for you. Period.

I know you don't eat meat, but I'd revisit that if I was serious about building muscle. Chicken breast is a good lean protien and works well with vegetables. Each their own, but high quality protien is as key as protien.

I'm not going to say much on pharma besides I'm out except for a last resort. Diet and exercise everytime for me. I've seen it work time and time again.

 

[Prs Mods too]

I Invite You To Really Dig Deep And Do Your Own Research. Nothing I Say Is Inaccurate. Those In The Pocket Of Big Pharma (Like You It Appears) Will Likely Disagree Because That Is The Mantra That Is Being Pushed. Its A Business To Them. There Is No Interest In Curing People, Simply Treating Symptoms Because There Is No Money In Cures. Break Out Of The Big Pharma Echo Chamber And There Is Plenty Of Proven Information From Very Proper Doctors Who Will Disagree With You And Align With What I Am Saying On The Issue. I Encourage Everybody Facing Anything To Really Do Their Own Research From Many Different Sources On Many Different Search Engines And Books, Studies, Etc. And Come To A Decision They Are Comfortable With. There Are Many Things People Can Do And Steps They Can Take To Improve Their Overall Health. Stop Microwaving Your Food. Stop Cooking With Aluminum Foil. Stop Cooking With Non Stick Pots And Pans. There Are A Million Things Making People Sick. Do The Research...Don't Just Blindly "Trust The Science" Because We All Know Now That Was Bull$h1t. I Encourage You To Look Into The Doctors I Mentioned (And There Are More If You Care To Dig A Little Bit) And You Will Quickly See Things Differently.

Just curious, why do you capitalize every word. It makes it difficult to read for some reason, even though that shouldn't be the case.

 

[Maertl513]

@Birdsofprey is absolutely by stating the HDL and LDL differenciation. The general statement, cholesterol is to high by the physician, doesn't recommend this person to be well educated.
But your protein dominated nutrition, is typical for our time: quick gains. First of all: Be aware of your kidneys. Protein enhances acids. Though you eat veggie there is basic for balancing. Fruits are either acid but carbohydrates. And in general not complex carbohydrate chains.

Are you in your menopause? Everything changes, too, and it's not a female issue only. Hormon ratio. Fats...

Eat a normal nutrition, balacend carbs - and aswell with complex chains.
And don't train hard and doggedly but smart. Medical studies depict, the older we get, the more efficient and effective is lifting weight to control our body weight.
It's not endurance cardio training. For our heart daily pedestrian activities, prefering to walk instead of using engine supported means of transport, using stairs instead of the escalator or lift is more relevant.
And it's not needed to lift weights like Arnold Schwarzenegger - and even long lasting. A few reps and sets over the day with low weight is enough. Like Kettleballs. Do a quick 5 min row on a rower machine, because it supports either the isometric movent of hips, pivots of knees, ankle joints, and you execute arm and shoulder training and even the stomach and lower back is addressed. Even for strength training resistance straps are recommended (e. g.).
No pain, no gain as a principle has been overcome.
In total better do a daily 15 min routine, than once or twice a week a fully mentally and physical exhausting hours lasting, which requires long recovery time and frustrates, because after every training, your mind and muscles can't fulfill their average duties because of being still overwhelmed.
The poor soldier who once founded the marathon race by accident, could only spoke out the tasked message and died immediately.
In the early years of my military career we had minimum twice a year marches of approx. 19 miles with backpack (of 22 lbs). Some ran the whole march. At the destination they puked.
The smart soldiers walked close to the limit of 5 hrs and were able for further military tasks.
A few years ago they changed to 7,5 miles in maximum 2 hrs and a weight of 33 lbs. The suit remained the same: BDU without wearung a helmet. On a dismounted combat patrol the march is one task to a destination. At that you might man control points, do reconnaissance, build fighting positions, set up a hide, or fight a raid because the patrol was the infil.

Additionally pilates or yoga postures support to stay flexible and smooth or improve mobility on the long run.
Stay relaxed and patient.
Seek - pointing on Aristoteles - the average.

 

[Prs Mods too]

*too*

 

[DISTORT6]

Looks like I need that zipper mouth emoji that I can't find. Second time tonight.

Yup. I don’t go on guitar forums to ask or talk about political, health or “religious” issues.

 

[Lola]

@Birdsofprey is absolutely by stating the HDL and LDL differenciation. The general statement, cholesterol is to high by the physician, doesn't recommend this person to be well educated.
But your protein dominated nutrition, is typical for our time: quick gains. First of all: Be aware of your kidneys. Protein enhances acids. Though you eat veggie there is basic for balancing. Fruits are either acid but carbohydrates. And in general not complex carbohydrate chains.

Are you in your menopause? Everything changes, too, and it's not a female issue only. Hormon ratio. Fats...

Eat a normal nutrition, balacend carbs - and aswell with complex chains.
And don't train hard and doggedly but smart. Medical studies depict, the older we get, the more efficient and effective is lifting weight to control our body weight.
It's not endurance cardio training. For our heart daily pedestrian activities, prefering to walk instead of using engine supported means of transport, using stairs instead of the escalator or lift is more relevant.
And it's not needed to lift weights like Arnold Schwarzenegger - and even long lasting. A few reps and sets over the day with low weight is enough. Like Kettleballs. Do a quick 5 min row on a rower machine, because it supports either the isometric movent of hips, pivots of knees, ankle joints, and you execute arm and shoulder training and even the stomach and lower back is addressed. Even for strength training resistance straps are recommended (e. g.).
No pain, no gain as a principle has been overcome.
In total better do a daily 15 min routine, than once or twice a week a fully mentally and physical exhausting hours lasting, which requires long recovery time and frustrates, because after every training, your mind and muscles can't fulfill their average duties because of being still overwhelmed.
The poor soldier who once founded the marathon race by accident, could only spoke out the tasked message and died immediately.
In the early years of my military career we had minimum twice a year marches of approx. 19 miles with backpack (of 22 lbs). Some ran the whole march. At the destination they puked.
The smart soldiers walked close to the limit of 5 hrs and were able for further military tasks.
A few years ago they changed to 7,5 miles in maximum 2 hrs and a weight of 33 lbs. The suit remained the same: BDU without wearung a helmet. On a dismounted combat patrol the march is one task to a destination. At that you might man control points, do reconnaissance, build fighting positions, set up a hide, or fight a raid because the patrol was the infil.

Additionally pilates or yoga postures support to stay flexible and smooth or improve mobility on the long run.
Stay relaxed and patient.
Seek - pointing on Aristoteles - the average.

ThNk you for a plethora of info. I was a personal trainer for 15 years and am very well versed in the relationship between diet and exercise. My son is a pro body builder. Between the two of us we are continually educating ourselves. I workout religiously every morning, 2 body parts in a 3 day split. I lift as heavy as possible. I need to be able to help my husband with his care. I need to be able to move said wheel chair out the bed of the truck with ease instead of struggling with it. This year is better because I am pushing myself with heavier weights. I roller skate at night and I walk my doggos 3 times a day. Was also cycling until I couldn’t anymore. I am very hyper and can’t sit still at all. It’s me. It pisses ppl off sometimes but whatever.

I am very conscientious about my diet except like I said. I still have to clean up my diet somewhat. NO MORE BUTTER AND LIGHT ON THE EGG YOLKS. I am going to take these two components out of my diet and see if that does anything. I can treat myself to yolks once or twice a week. I can sit down and eat a half a dozen fried eggs complete with yolks. I did that for about the last year or so. I am sure these two are part of the culprits that contributed to the problem. I have been eating tons of eggs as one of my primary sources of complete amino acids. Tofu being one too. And now I am gluten and lactose free.

I just can’t and won’t eat meat. It goes against every fibre of my being. I just can’t. My own personal ethical reasons.

I now know what I think the problem is. I need to fix it now.

 

[LunarRock]

Tuna can have high Mercury, as an apex predator.

 

[Lola]

Tuna can have high Mercury, as an apex predator.

I haven’t eaten Tuna in 15 years. The taste just sucks. I force myself to eat this.
Maybe twice a week. I do the chopped onion, celery and mayo but it’s still not a preferred taste. I take a mouthful and force it down with a coffee to get rid of the taste. I hate eating something that used to be alive. I am a hypocrite.

 

[Lola]

I got to work and figured things out.
I am currently up to 92 grams of protein. I need 20 more grams. Bean salad comes to mind. I love that stuff.

I will eat egg yolks once a week and no butter. All the other cholesterol in my food is 100 grams or less. I do believe I am allowed up to 200 grams with high cholesterol. I will check that out with my doctor though just to be safe.

If you know that there is a problem fix it now. Don’t wait.

There is heart disease on my mothers side of the family.

We all need to be vigilant especially when it comes to our health!!

 

[László]

I just got a call from my doctor after getting my blood work done. He said that my cholesterol has been rising over the last year and now it’s not at a crisis point but he said I don’t want to put you on meds for it.

I told him that I have been indulging in this lactose free butter. It’s honestly tastes superior to any butter I have ever eaten. Everyday I indulge.

Eggs. A controversy or not. I eat anywhere from 4-6 eggs for breakfast. I don’t eat meat at all.
I read labels constantly.

I need to keep a very strict record of what I eat for the next 3 months and then get my blood work done again.

Just a little freaked out.

How do you deal with this issue if you have it.

I am so afraid that I am already reading every label that I eat now. I am trying to see where else there are hidden fats that I should be aware of. I thought I had educated myself enough but were to blind to see the forest
for the trees!

I’ve been on a statin medication for many years, because I have heart disease. My cholesterol level went from somewhere in the unacceptable range to 80-something quite a while back.

Did it help with the heart disease?

Not really.

 

[Johnny Rigs]

Not to be insensitive, but … can you share which awesome butter this is??

 

[Lola]

Yes. It’s called Lactancia Lactose free butter.

This is gross but I loved it so much. Just the mouth feel and sweetness and salty tastes are amazing. I was eating it by the teaspoon full. It’s just superior to normal butter. It’s a very tamed down version of the original butter we are used too. I can’t eat it anymore. If I have a taste on a fresh piece of sourdough bread I am done for. So I just have to give it up!

I used to eat 4-6 whole eggs for breakfast every morning and then go workout. Now I eat egg whites only.

I also gave up cheese because I love it and never know when to stop. Blue cheese and I are best friends. I have it everyday along with cheddar. To much cholesterol and too much fat.

I just have to adapt. But NO more chocolate eclairs with real whipped cream filling and a hot coffee. That makes me sad very sad