Channeling Sigmund.

[László]

Honestly, I didn't know where to put this.

"Then don't post it, doofus."

"It relates in the end to my studio, so I stuck it here."

Anyway

I stumbled onto some color photos of Freud's den/study, which was preserved intact in London after his passing (he died two weeks after WW2 began).

From photos I've seen, Freud apparently tried to re-create the home in Vienna he fled after the Nazis came.

I thought...how interesting! I didn't know Freud was into ancient and historical sculpture. He had it where he worked and wrote. Must've been either a history or ancient art buff.

And then I realized something: Freud's room has kind of a familiar vibe...and a...disturbance in The Force started to hit me. It's certainly a coincidence.

"There are no coincidences."

"Yeah, there are, but this one really struck me."

Freud's study:

My den:

Mine's simpler of course - you can't just go out and buy ancient artifacts like you could 120 years ago. Am I Sigmund somehow reincarnated, trying to make my rooms similar to his rooms so he can be comfortable here? I mean, the color scheme, white walls, the rug, the stuff on stands, a floor lamp...

Is that other guy I talk to in my posts...Sigmund?

These, my friends are questions that cannot be answered - yet.

And of course, I'm kidding round. But it's kind of a curiosity.

Then there was a pic of Freud's other wall in the same room. Bookshelves, pottery and historical artifacts. And I thought, I've got bookshelves and pottery in my very own studio. And I like ancient history and art.

So f#ck it, I decided, the Roman helmet is going back down into my studio. If historical items were good enough for Siggy...I get to have whatever floats my boat in my work space!

I don't care if a Roman helmet replica doesn't belong in a studio. Screw it. I need a few of the ancients vibing here! I even need Freud!



P.S. The helmet weighs less than 10 pounds, so it met the medical criteria I'm supposed to follow until I completely heal up.

P.P.S. The reason I vary the location of the books on the shelves with other stuff is because in theory, it creates a little diffusion that books alone don't do. I have no idea if this is correct in my room, but the room does sound good, very well-controlled but not dead acoustically.

 

[sergiodeblanc]

 

[RobRiggs]

A blast from the past! I completely forgot about that show!

 

[sergiodeblanc]

A blast from the past! I completely forgot about that show!

His uni-fang cracks me up.

 

[László]

"Laz, except for the shot with the guitar gear, this post has no PRS purpose and you've wasted our time with this clickbait."

"Is that you, Siggy?"

 

[László]

I've never heard of that show!

But I was a young adult and had no kids at the time, so of course I wouldn't have seen it.

 

[sergiodeblanc]

I've never heard of that show!

But I was a young adult and had no kids at the time, so of course I wouldn't have seen it.

This was the kinda television I was subjected to growing up.

The creators Sid and Marty Krofft did a bunch of trippy kids shows like HR Pufnstuf and The Land of the Lost.

 

[László]

"Maybe you'll post some pics of Camus' home next, Laz."

"Nah. I decided long ago that life is worth living. Since that was Camus' fundamental question, I'd rather look for Aristotle's living room."

"Why's that?"

"He asked more than one fundamental question."

"Doesn't exist any more, Laz. They probably tore down the building before the year One."

"Well, then how about Plato? He had a retreat in NYC in the '70s."

"Might have been a different Plato. Just sayin'."

 

[sergiodeblanc]

Well, if it counts for anything I’d much rather hang with you at your crib than with Freud.

I think I’d be offended by his insinuations about my mother.

 

[László]

Well, if it counts for anything I’d much rather hang with you at your crib than with Freud.

I think I’d be offended by his insinuations about my mother.

You'd be most welcome here any time.

I promise not to say a word about your mother. Ixnay on the othermay!

 

[aamefford]

@sergiodeblanc beat me to the mother joke. All I got is the roman helmet. Looks an awful lot like USC's Tommy Trojan for a Michigan fan...

(yes, I’m a somewhat shamed lately USC alum.)

 

[Alnus Rubra]

Ach this thread is a bust.

 

[László]

@sergiodeblanc beat me to the mother joke. All I got is the roman helmet. Looks an awful lot like USC's Tommy Trojan for a Michigan fan...

Well, that Tommy Trojan armor thing. It's all wrong. Completely wrong!!

(By the way this is all meant in good humor, but the facts are true)

While I'm delighted - thrilled actually - that USC, UCLA, Washington and Oregon chose to join the Big Ten, making games more interesting when previously they were pretty dull stuff, the USC Trojans need to be historically correct with their mascot, or my sensitivities and sensibilities will be sorely addled.

If the Trojan War actually took place - it's debatable - it has been dated somewhere between 1200-1400 BC. The real Tommy Trojan would have worn something like the Dendra Panoply.

This is what was actually dug up in Mycenae from that era. A helmet made of boar's tusks; armor that looks like my 10 year old self designed it with a paper bag and some aluminum foil...

Dendra panoply - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We know that by 1177 BC, the Mycenaean civilization collapsed completely, and then there was a dark age in Greece for several hundred years. Troy existed as a city before 1177, but after the collapse of that civilization never got their sh!t together and had a major effect on history again. It has been speculated that it was a Hittite city, and just try and find yourself a Hittite today. Can't be done after 1177 BC. They disappear from history.

The Greeks who replaced the Myceneans were Dorians; perhaps there was intermarriage, but Mycenaean culture simply stopped existing in a very brief time and the cities were abandoned.

So if the Trojan War actually took place, it had to be before 1177 BC.

And despite Virgil's Aeneid, a novel that invented the idea that Trojans escaped the destruction and founded Rome, that was to please the powers that be and was pure fantasy.

In 1177 BC, Rome was a sh!thole tiny town in Italy made of wattle and daub huts. Roman armor would have been made of wicker and dung, if they even had any.

The USC dude, on the other hand, wears a take on the Roman Praetorian Guard helmet of the 1st Century AD, but the cheek pieces are way too long for that type of helmet, and the visor is too large. The armor is 1st-2nd Century Roman general stuff, only with a Greek design on the border of the sleeves, skirt and cape. That design was classical, not Mycenaean or Hittite.

It'd be great if the actual Trojans looked anything like that, but they're at least 1,200 years too early. 1200 years is a pretty long time!

For comparison's sake, 1,200 years before today was the year 824 AD. Charlemagne's kids would have been duking it out over who got to keep what of the Holy Roman Empire, and people would have been eating their boogers instead of blowing their noses (I just made the booger thing up, but the rest is true).

The Angles and Saxons still ruled England, and were still fighting the Scots and Welsh. The Roman Empire in the East still existed and controlled a huge amount of territory with a powerful army wearing medieval steppe influenced armor that BTW looked nothing like the classical Roman armor.

The Trojans wouldn't have looked like Roman guards.

There's a different style helmet worn by the Trojan mascot sometimes that's more like Alexander the Great era. Only about 900 years too early for that one...

The saddle on Traveler is wrong. Stirrups weren't introduced by the Steppe people until the 5th or 6th C. AD. The ancients used saddles with several horns to keep their butts in place.

I've always questioned the whole USC/Troy idea anyway. They lost and the city got destroyed. Why on Earth name a football team after the guys who were fooled by the damn giant horse and lost?

ON THE OTHER HAND...

Everyone knows that real Wolverines in the wild mountain and forest areas wear blue and yellow outfits with winged helmets. This is a proven fact!

Never mind that nature's wolverines don't live in Michigan any more.

Historical side note: During the battle of Gettysburg, it was George Armstrong Custer from Michigan leading the Michigan cavalry to do an end-around on the Confederate positions, and as he charged he famously shouted, "Come on you Wolverines!"

Only sixteen years later (1879) Michigan started playing football and my guess is they couldn't think of a better name and just went with the Custer thing. And we all know what happened to him. So that's another anomaly, though he was relatively successful at Gettysburg, and maybe that's what got remembered.

In conclusion, my Roman helmet replica (a gag gift from my brother BTW) is most assuredly not Trojan. It is a late 1st/2nd Century Principate, Imperial Italic Type C helmet copy, not quite museum quality, but pretty decent, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Troy, Trojans, or USC.

The defense rests. Go Blue!

Another side note: The official colors chosen in the 19th C. for the university were not navy blue and yellow; they were sky blue and yellow, similar to UCLA's sky blue. It appears the football team decided at some point that sky blue wasn't happening for them, and went over to Navy. No one who was in on the decision in the late 19th C. is around to remember exactly why. This is why things have to be written down, people!!

 

[bodia]

Your room does look an awful lot like his!

 

[László]

Your room does look an awful lot like his!

Right? It's one thing to see old, grainy black and white photos, but the color shot comparison really made me laugh!

I don't know if you remember, but at one point I used Freud's pic as my avatar here. Too weird!

 

[bodia]

Right? It's one thing to see old, grainy black and white photos, but the color shot comparison really made me laugh!

I don't know if you remember, but at one point I used Freud's pic as my avatar here. Too weird!

I recall that

 

[László]

My only problem with the helmet is...it's not a museum-accurate reproduction, which they in fact do make.

Of course, only a lunatic would replace it with one that for all intents and purposes would be absolutely indistinguishable to anyone who hadn't read books on Roman helmets.

I guess it only matters that I know.

On the other hand, having my wife not even recognize that I changed it...

 

[Tosca]

I don't know if you remember, but at one point I used Freud's pic as my avatar here. Too weird!

Sooooo…should we anticipate an upcoming thread comparing yours and Churchill’s bathroom?

 

[László]

Sooooo…should we anticipate an upcoming thread comparing yours and Churchill’s bathroom?

18-karat gold toilet swiped from Winston Churchill’s childhood home

Thieves pinched an 18-karat commode from Winston Churchill’s boyhood home Saturday — and immediately became public enemies numbers 1 and 2.

nypost.com

I have no gold toilets or wood paneling in my bathroom. My crapper is crappy in comparison...

 

[aamefford]

Well, that Tommy Trojan armor thing. It's all wrong. Completely wrong!!

(By the way this is all meant in good humor, but the facts are true)

While I'm delighted - thrilled actually - that USC, UCLA, Washington and Oregon chose to join the Big Ten, making games more interesting when previously they were pretty dull stuff, the USC Trojans need to be historically correct with their mascot, or my sensitivities and sensibilities will be sorely addled.

If the Trojan War actually took place - it's debatable - it has been dated somewhere between 1200-1400 BC. The real Tommy Trojan would have worn something like the Dendra Panoply.

This is what was actually dug up in Mycenae from that era. A helmet made of boar's tusks; armor that looks like my 10 year old self designed it with a paper bag and some aluminum foil...

Dendra panoply - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We know that by 1177 BC, the Mycenaean civilization collapsed completely, and then there was a dark age in Greece for several hundred years. Troy existed as a city before 1177, but after the collapse of that civilization never got their sh!t together and had a major effect on history again. It has been speculated that it was a Hittite city, and just try and find yourself a Hittite today. Can't be done after 1177 BC. They disappear from history.

The Greeks who replaced the Myceneans were Dorians; perhaps there was intermarriage, but Mycenaean culture simply stopped existing in a very brief time and the cities were abandoned.

So if the Trojan War actually took place, it had to be before 1177 BC.

And despite Virgil's Aeneid, a novel that invented the idea that Trojans escaped the destruction and founded Rome, that was to please the powers that be and was pure fantasy.

In 1177 BC, Rome was a sh!thole tiny town in Italy made of wattle and daub huts. Roman armor would have been made of wicker and dung, if they even had any.

The USC dude, on the other hand, wears a take on the Roman Praetorian Guard helmet of the 1st Century AD, but the cheek pieces are way too long for that type of helmet, and the visor is too large. The armor is 1st-2nd Century Roman general stuff, only with a Greek design on the border of the sleeves, skirt and cape. That design was classical, not Mycenaean or Hittite.

It'd be great if the actual Trojans looked anything like that, but they're at least 1,200 years too early. 1200 years is a pretty long time!

For comparison's sake, 1,200 years before today was the year 824 AD. Charlemagne's kids would have been duking it out over who got to keep what of the Holy Roman Empire, and people would have been eating their boogers instead of blowing their noses (I just made the booger thing up, but the rest is true).

The Angles and Saxons still ruled England, and were still fighting the Scots and Welsh. The Roman Empire in the East still existed and controlled a huge amount of territory with a powerful army wearing medieval steppe influenced armor that BTW looked nothing like the classical Roman armor.

The Trojans wouldn't have looked like Roman guards.

There's a different style helmet worn by the Trojan mascot sometimes that's more like Alexander the Great era. Only about 900 years too early for that one...

The saddle on Traveler is wrong. Stirrups weren't introduced by the Steppe people until the 5th or 6th C. AD. The ancients used saddles with several horns to keep their butts in place.

I've always questioned the whole USC/Troy idea anyway. They lost and the city got destroyed. Why on Earth name a football team after the guys who were fooled by the damn giant horse and lost?

ON THE OTHER HAND...

Everyone knows that real Wolverines in the wild mountain and forest areas wear blue and yellow outfits with winged helmets. This is a proven fact!

Never mind that nature's wolverines don't live in Michigan any more.

Historical side note: During the battle of Gettysburg, it was George Armstrong Custer from Michigan leading the Michigan cavalry to do an end-around on the Confederate positions, and as he charged he famously shouted, "Come on you Wolverines!"

Only sixteen years later (1879) Michigan started playing football and my guess is they couldn't think of a better name and just went with the Custer thing. And we all know what happened to him. So that's another anomaly, though he was relatively successful at Gettysburg, and maybe that's what got remembered.

In conclusion, my Roman helmet replica (a gag gift from my brother BTW) is most assuredly not Trojan. It is a late 1st/2nd Century Principate, Imperial Italic Type C helmet copy, not quite museum quality, but pretty decent, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Troy, Trojans, or USC.

The defense rests. Go Blue!

Another side note: The official colors chosen in the 19th C. for the university were not navy blue and yellow; they were sky blue and yellow, similar to UCLA's sky blue. It appears the football team decided at some point that sky blue wasn't happening for them, and went over to Navy. No one who was in on the decision in the late 19th C. is around to remember exactly why. This is why things have to be written down, people!!

So, you know a lot about ancient history, and entirely too much about helmets. I am seriously (no actually seriously) impressed. What you forget, is Los Angeles, Hollywood, movies, rich people and arrogance! FFS, how else would USC be involved in several recruiting ethics violations, have a campus doctor finally fired after years of sexual abuse of female students? Historical accuracy be damned! This is the home of movies, fantasy, ENTERTAINMENT! Trojan sounds COOL (in a contraceptive kind of way) and Tommy’s armor looks BADASS! History? Seriously?

You can see why I’m a sort of embarrassed alum. I guess the the MBA was ok, and God bless Boeing for paying for it. Speaking of being an embarrassed alum…