CE question

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  1. DK1984

    DK1984 New Member

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    Is there anything about how Paul designed the CE neck pocket or how the bolt on makes it better than lets say a fender?

    I was just curious because I never owned the CE but I'm going to try to get one eventually before the prices get too insane on those.
     
  2. RallyFanatic

    RallyFanatic Perpetual musical mid-life crisis

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    I’m not sure there’s much difference in the approach, except maybe tighter tolerances on the CE - my Fenders always had a bit of a gap somewhere around the neck pocket that I don’t see on my CE (or my Silver Sky for that matter).

    If it’s the type of guitar you’re looking for, it’s quite excellent! I don’t think prices have skyrocketed over the last few years, and there’s plenty of great used ones at excellent prices on Reverb/ebay.
     
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  3. garrett

    garrett knows just enough to be dangerous

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    The neck/body joint is far less bulky thanks to the extended tenon.
     
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  4. HoovHead

    HoovHead New Member

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    I agree on availability and quality. I just purchased a used 2006 CE-22. Mine is a solid mahogany body (no maple top) with Dragon II pickups and a 5-way switch. It included all hang tags and in very good condition—for less than $900. The sound adds a convincing fender-ish single coil tone to my lineup.
     
  5. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    Older CEs rule!!!!
     
  6. Prs Mods too

    Prs Mods too New Member

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    This ^^^

    I have a maple capped CE24 that blows my custom away. Both have the same electronics/switching. Only difference is the screw on maple neck. Yes, screw on....there are no neck fastening bolts on these or most other "bolt on" guitars. :p:D
     
  7. Herr Squid

    Herr Squid I was severely impressed

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    CEs are great guitars. One big difference between those and bolt-on Fenders is that on a CE the neck goes much deeper into the body. It actually extends under the neck pickup instead of stopping short. So there's a lot more contact area between neck and body, and they make that fit nice and tight.
     
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  8. Bill SAS 513

    Bill SAS 513 Just another old guy in a T-shirt

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    Yup...Remember that its a totally "tonally" different sound...(bolt-on vs. set neck)...
    There are some that just flat out prefer the sound/snap of a bolt, over the sound of a set-neck, regardless of lower price.
    There are some older bolts out there for around 1K...enjoy the hunt.
     
  9. merciful-evans

    merciful-evans Portsmouth uk

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    The CE gets about 20% closer to a Fender sound IMO.
     
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    Prs Mods too New Member

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    20% closer than what....a custom? Half in the bag right now so please excuse me if it's a dumb question.

    Cheers! :D
     
  11. Egads

    Egads One, Two, THIRTEEN!

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    Keep climbing in the bag...the CE gets even closer to a Fender sound once you are fully bagged.
     
  12. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Ha!
     
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    Prs Mods too New Member

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    20-30% closer to a fender sound than a fender imo. :eek:
     
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  14. merciful-evans

    merciful-evans Portsmouth uk

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    Fender sound = Custom / Fender / Squier / Tele / Strat / JM : take your pick. Its just an opinion.
    Another opinion. I think its the bolt on neck that makes that difference with the CE. Though of course its far from the whole sonic blueprint.
     
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  15. Prs Mods too

    Prs Mods too New Member

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    Cryptic dooode. :cool:
     
  16. fryeguy

    fryeguy New Member

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    First post, huge PRS fan...I just wanted to chime in as I recently picked up a 1991 PRS CE24 and I wanted to share my thoughts. So for reference, at 1 time or another I've had a late 90s & an early 00s CE22, a PRS DGT (06 I think), a 20th Anniversary Standard 24 (all mahogany), an S2 Vela, an SE semi-hollow, & I'm probably forgetting 1 or 2 (not to mention an embarrassingly large number of other makes/models). What's my point? This old beat up 91 CE24 is hands down THE best guitar I've ever had. I've had 335s, LP Standards & SGs, some nice Fenders, etc & nothing compares. Nothing. I don't like to believe that vintage or "pre-factory", in this case, equals better & I know PRS has never really had any QC problems. But, the sustain, tone, playability & overall feel is something I've not experienced before & I think this has a lot to do with where, when, & how it was built. I knew within just a few seconds this guitar was special and I didn't hesitate for a second to trade my 2019 American Professional Tele for it straight up. Objectively, it's been played a LOT but as far as I can tell it's never had a fret dress & the wear is almost imperceptible. The rosewood still has a rich, deep hue. The pots are a little scratchy but otherwise every component still works perfectly & stays in tune incredibly well. Subjectively, it doesn't play like a brand new guitar. It plays better. PRS's earlier days were all about bridging the gap between Gibson & Fender & this CE24 is the best example of that I've ever seen. It has more girth & sustain than an average Les Pau & I think it has a totally different level of clarity, note separation & bite than your average Fender. Hard to believe from a bolt-on less than 8 lbs. Oh & this is all unplugged, mind you. I haven't even gotten to the pickups yet! The HFS/Vintage Bass set is often referred to as a rough equivalent to the JB/Jazz combo. Output-wise, they're about the same but these don't "sound" like Seymour Duncans to me. I've played the hell out of the JB/Jazz set combined with all kinds of different woods. The HFS/VB mids/upper mids are more pronounced. They just sing & I cannot get enough of them. Sweet, biting vintage PAF tone for eons. Bottom line, I think all PRSs are great. You get so much more for your money than any other guitar. But I happily stumbled upon an example from yesteryear that reminds me that vintage guitars are still worth the hunt. Sorry for rambling! Hope you're enjoying your CE24, they're amazing instruments.
     
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  17. Alnus Rubra

    Alnus Rubra Loving nature’s wonders

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    Hi and welcome
     
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    Prs Mods too New Member

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    Welcome, glad you're enjoying an awesome ce 24 too. Also my best axe. :D
     
  19. JJJ

    JJJ asleep

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    The only difference is that the CE uses a tenon that bolts into the body. On a strat or tele the neck bolts to an extension from the body, if you know what I mean.

    No matter what you read, they're both subject to similar problems and getting pocket cracks. I like the PRS join but it's not inherently any better, it's just a way to make a regular PRS into a bolt-on. I think when you inspect the neck pickup cavities on the old CE models they're quite tidy joins, but they still have small gaps like strats do
     
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  20. gush

    gush She said "huge bag of dibs".

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    I do have a ce22 that has a neck pocket crack. I think it's only finish crack but I don't care because the guitar rocks!
     

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