Can you buy a You Tube review?

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  1. CoreyT

    CoreyT PRS Addiction

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    This is kind of a cool idea, he is going to be doing more reviews, but will not be influenced by the manufacturers of the gear.
    Check out the PRS he is holding.
    One thing I do not like about Guitar Worlds video reviews is they never say anything negative about the products, they are all good.

    What I like about Chappers and the Captains reviews is both of them will tell you is something sucks.
    Same for the guy from Germany, EytschPi42 (Henning.)
    He will downright tell you if something sucks.

     
  2. Ovibos

    Ovibos Unsure why all necks aren't rosewood

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    I know there was a thread here a while back about a pedal review he did and how he should or shouldn't handle issues with seller/makers.

    But I generally like his stuff - the videos on who owns what nameplates were fascinating, and he'll delve into why a cheap guitar is cheap, what "pot metal" is, etc.
     
  3. andy474x

    andy474x Knows the Drill

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    I generally like Phil's stuff. He has some interesting perspectives and tries to bring something unique to the table with a lot of his videos. I remember one series he did on how feasible low wattage amps were for live playing, he actually got a local band to come in and go through their set with a variety of different amps under 30-ish watts, to see which amps could hang with the band and cut through the mix. He had a bunch of stuff, Mesa Mark V 25 and Mini Rec, a Roland solid state, Fender Blues Jr, Marshall 2061 and Class 5, Peavey Classic 20 and 6505 Mini. That was a great way for people to get a feel for which amps might be a good choice if they don't want to drag a half stack around.

    Rob Chapman, he does some OK videos but I think it helps to remember that he's there to sell gear for a retailer (Andertons). I don't often hear him bash stuff, I could give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he just doesn't post a review if he doesn't like it. Plus, his tone is always so homogenous, it's like he's always trying to get everything to sound the same and you can't really hear the variety of what a piece of gear can do. He used to have some great videos when he was starting out, especially when it comes to technique and theory, very professional, but now he just kinda runs through generic jams and the same old riffs, and a lot of his stuff is just juvenile fluff. I actually prefer videos from Danish Pete, Lee, and Rabea on the Anderton's channel.

    I appreciate Phil's take on gear, because he kinda strikes me as an everyman musician - someone that understands the practicality of budget, has enough musical talent to showcase gear but not so nuts you can't see through the forest of shred, and just understands the reality of being a non-professional guitarist. I do wish he would step up his game on mic setup and use something more than a camera mic more often. But his perspectives are helpful.
     
  4. n24re

    n24re Enjoying the ride...

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    I have met Phil in person at his store in Arizona. I just happened to be in town and popped in. I didn't even know it was his store. We got to talking and I have to say he is a real genuine guy. We talked about the business of guitars and the hobby of guitars and how the two don't mix very well. That is why I think this new idea for his YouTube channel is a great idea.

    I just think that Phil is willing to "irritate" the manufacturer for the sake of the consumer and not the other way around. I think most dealers would not be willing to do that. Now that being said I know we have some great dealers on here and I have bought guitars from a few of them with zero issues ( Dave,Brian, Seattle,etc). I would not question their integrity either, but I think Phil is taking a bigger risk as a shop owner and I applaud him for that.

    Steve
     
  5. Kazz

    Kazz Kaptain Kazz of the Triple Sickle Alliance

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    You definitely can buy reviews on YouTube and many other places. If you want to spend enough or send me some nice gear I could even make one for you. ;)

    I think that most of the time rather than outright buying reviews though, people send out gear to generate positive reviews of it, or retailers review products positively just to help sell them.

    When you find someone you think is trustworthy and you like their reviews, it's probably a good idea to keep coming back to them.
     
  6. pac90

    pac90 In Helix Land, the waters warm

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    agree danish pete is a phenomenal guitarist, really like the videos he does with mick taylor, they always have a blast
    Chappers seemed to go through a stage of using one of his high gain guitars on everything, hate that sound

    I take them all with a pinch of salt though, as far as being influenced to buy anything
     
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  7. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    I'm of the opinion that this guy doesn't have the ear, or the skill set, and doesn't know that much. Sorry.
     
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  8. CoreyT

    CoreyT PRS Addiction

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    I saw the video Phil did with the low wattage amps and the band.

    And yes, I really do like the Pete & Rabea vids, I have a thread here I post them to.

    Gotta hand it to Rob today though, he put up a Marshal video today, and Lee is playing lead at the opening of the video on a Strat, and Rob told him that was the best he had hear him play.
    I was very impressed with Lee's playing, it has hugely improved over the last year.

    And yes, I like Phil's videos.
    He may not be the best player or have the best equipment to record with, but he is making the effort, and that earns huge points with me and keeps me coming back.

    You do not need to be a Pete Thorn to make informative videos.
     
  9. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    This [email protected] guy!

    I deleted my long and negative post about my feelings... and I'm internalizing all my ire towards this dude and his lazy videos. :confused:
     
  10. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    I actually think he does just fine as a player. But...he doesn't bring very much good information to the party, and his knowledge and thinking appears to this listener as very shallow, disingenuous, and self-serving.

    Pete Thorn works his butt off on those videos. He freely shares a ton of useful knowledge, and his knowledge goes much, much deeper, into technique, production, performing, and a myriad of other things in addition to his product demos.

    These aren't even remotely comparable.

    Also, Pete Thorn doesn't pretend to be an objective reviewer. He's paid to demo products, and that's what he does. He demos them. THEY ARE NOT REVIEWS, THEY ARE DEMOS.

    This. Lazy for sure. And you have to start a video off telling me about what an honest/wonderful sumbitch you are? Dude wants a pat on the back for merely not being dishonest?

    Something about that smells like a long-dead fish, especially considering the inherent conflict with his role as a music gear store owner.

    Now, he may in fact be a very nice guy, and just come off badly on video. So I have to differentiate between him as a person, and his presentation. Just to be clear, it's his presentation that gives me a negative feeling when watching him, and while most of that is based on the lack of in-depth information, some of it is based on his self-serving statements.

    Finally, you see there are banner ads on his videos. That means money is involved in advertising that goes to him. I see nothing wrong with making money. I see nothing wrong with promoting your store indirectly.

    Just be upfront about it.
     
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  11. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    Agreed.... and now he's gonna run a lottery too? :rolleyes:

    I guess his channel might be good for people who like to hear dudes talk about gear, but for him to classify it as an educational channel is embarrassing.

    His video on compression was... I just can't.... I know he's tryin' to make videos for beginners and novices and that compression is a fairly broad and difficult subject to explain, but I actually felt dumber after his analogies. The was nothing about thresholds, release times, or ratios...nothing.

    At no point during his video for the decibel meter app explain why or when you'd actually use one besides some lame comment about being able to point out to your wife that you're rockin' out at an agreed upon level. No mention of using it to set levels for your studio monitors, not even a dip of the toe into the concept of Fletcher-Munson curves or how volume can affect your hearing during mixing, or how you could use it to check outside noise transference after you try and soundproof your home with cat pee-stained carpeting so the neighbors don't call the 5-0...

    Then there was the one where he recommended a container to store pedals in with no price or name of the product, just: "my wife bought this at Walmart". Or the one where he explains the finer intricacies of Floyd Rose tremolos by making the international sign for rectal-fisting for two minutes while describing how strings can get bound in the nut, and making no effort to explain why the system uses locking saddles.

    It seems to me dude just doesn't take this all that seriously. His harsh video edits....( Jebus, I made cleaner edits on two VCRs in 1986!) And he proposes sending him money for this???? There was one (OMG), where he started talking about his guitar manufacturing experience and he showed a picture of his specially made bass by holding up his [email protected] iPad to his web camera!!!! :confused: He literally couldn't be bothered to upload the pic and post it in iMovie?

    Dude puts zero planning and minimal effort into this sh!t. Three videos a week? How about researching one topic a month, actually write down what points you wanna make, actually mic up the gear with something besides your video camera, and stick to the script.

    Remember how Bangin'! crgtr's videos were? I miss the Twang-Bangers vids... He did a great job, was informative and educational, and fun.
     
  12. CoreyT

    CoreyT PRS Addiction

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    Speakin' of Chris, I would like to see some more vids of his.
    He owes us a SE Santana vid too from one he was modifying a few years ago.
     
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  13. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    I know from Instagram that Chris is still killin' it. We were lucky to have him as a regular contributor for as long as we did.

    I'm also sorry, and wish to apologize for having such a powerful bought of Nerd Rage over your boy Phil's videos, Corey. I check out all the videos you post and am appreciative of your interests and efforts. You've exposed me to a bunch of cool sh!t that I wouldn't have sought out on my own, so thank you.

    I got a lil' hot under the collar 'cause I'm overprotective about my boys on the forum watching all these videos with no nutritional value, and then feel selfish 'cause I don't contribute enough of what little knowledge and experience I have about these subjects besides a "Bangin'!" here and there...

    I'll try and do a little more "put up or shut up" for my part in the future.
     
  14. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Please tell me this doesn't include porn! :(
     
  15. CoreyT

    CoreyT PRS Addiction

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    No problem Sergio.
    We are not all at the same level.
    Hell, I have been playing off and on since '71 or so, and I still cannot play lead :D
    I am just a hobbyist now, I play for fun, and it is a great way to keep stress away.

    Yeah, I watch a ton of videos trying to learn about gear and all, and read two guitar mags a month that I get at home.
    What I need to do is hookup with some players sometime and try to learn some stuff, or actually take some lessons to better myself.

    And yes, I use to look forward to Chris's videos here.
     
  16. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Get in, loser, we’re going shopping.

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    Nah, I think that stuff is part of a healthy diet.


    PM me and lemme know if you wanna Skype some lead guitar lessons sometime. I'd gladly show you all I know... for vegetarians only.
     
  17. Kazz

    Kazz Kaptain Kazz of the Triple Sickle Alliance

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    Cool, guess I can eavesdrop then? ;)
     
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  18. CoreyT

    CoreyT PRS Addiction

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    Thanks Sergio!
     
  19. Rider1260

    Rider1260 New Member

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    Chris ( CRGTR ) did videos of all my pedals :)
    Chris does not do negative reviews if he does not like the product he will not review.
    As far as paying goes if you want to do artist pedals you have to give some away same goes for most video reviews if you send them out for a review the usually don't come back unless it is agreed to upfront.
    Chris got a set of pedals for his ( continued ) help
    ( you can see the videos still on youtube search Tonal Insanity or my website )
    They are still fun to watch
     
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  20. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Yup, those were good videos. The pedals sounded good, too.
     
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