Can you buy 58/15 and/or 85/15 now that it's 2016?
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guitarman001
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They're not selling them separate.
I paid for mine - somebody was selling a set as they were replacing pups in their guitar.
I paid for mine - somebody was selling a set as they were replacing pups in their guitar.
bodia
Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved
Not yet. I sent in a Cu22 last week for some work. I asked about 58/15 and was told they can't do those.Sure can. They cost thousands, but they come with a free guitar!
I wonder if the PTC will install them on older guitars.
CatStrangler
PRS Enthusiast
ditto
markintime
Wood Grain Devotee
Damn...
Not a good move by PRS. They probably think that core sales would take a hit. My argument is people don't buy guitars for the pickups. Pickups are the MOST replaced thing on a guitar. That is why we have 600 boutique and mass produced pickup makers out there. It probably costs 40$ in parts and labor to make a pickup. They sell for 200$ thru PTC and then they charge you install and setup. For a company that, from all accounts, is on the fence financially, it would make sense to make as much money as possible from all avenues.
CatStrangler
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I'm quite curious. Where did you hear this?
Dusty Chalk
alberngruppenführer
First off, I really doubt that's the case -- the reason the 53/10 is gone is because they ran out of materials (the magic wire). I suspect this is similar. I believe they only have one source/machine for the magic wire, and I suspect it was the same one that generated the magic wire for the 53/10, and had to be retooled. So they have to pace guitar production against pickup production.
Secondly, there's two classes of guitar buyers -- those who do buy it for the whole package, pickups and all, with no intention of modding, and those that are unafraid to mod, and rarely don't. Just like with cars, computers, and everything else.
justmund
Plank Spanker
Same, I mean, they throw a massive party every year and do stuff like build a heap of different Private Stocks on spec each month, for 12 months, and keep on smashing the R&D with new pickups, tuners, lines (S2), preamps etc etc. Does NOT sound like a company that is "on the fence financially".
Didn't Paul even invest in a new company, based on research for medical, military etc applications?
They don't sell those pickups aftermarket because Paul doesn't want to. Heck, he didn't even want the PTC to sell 57/08s but someone (Shawn?) managed to convince him otherwise. His company, his perogative.
Think you can run a guitar company better? Have at it.
Alan Manning
Well Love a Duck Mary Poppins.!!!
I most definitely buy for the whole package. the exception was going to be the Bernie. When I plugged it in it was a case of "that really sounds nice, if it ain't broke don't fix it. although to be honest iv'e read some good cases for, so maybe one day. Maybe!!!
The hole in this argument is that 53/10s were available "a la carte". They may have only had one source for the wire but they didn't feel that was an impediment to selling them individually.
CatStrangler
PRS Enthusiast
I'll never understand why some people refuse to acknowledge this, and then turn around say the company sucks anyway, after not being able to purchase/afford some item from said company (hang out at TGP, this happens to all brands). I'm not so sure Paul calls all the shots, but he is a very smart marketer.
justmund
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Yes they were available, but the inability to reliably source the wire (with pixie dust) was why they pulled them from aftermarket sales and core guitars. Shawn confirmed this
Dusty Chalk
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It's all hypothesis anyway. Maybe I was wrong, maybe Paul just wants those of us who own a guitar with them feel more exclusive, maybe he pulled the 53/10s just to mess with us, to get us used to things going out of production, maybe he just constantly changes the lineup to keep it fresh, maybe he learned his lesson and doesn't want the same thing to happen to the new pups, maybe he keeps a cat in that little forest nearby that has lowered the faery population precipitously, maybe the more he sees posts like these, the longer he'll postpone the decision.
Me, personally, I've moved on, I'll get BKPs (for my sevens) or Fralins (sixes) or something.
justmund
Plank Spanker
Dusty Chalk
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Oh, I just wanted to say that about the cat and the faeries.
I originally responded to this saying it wouldn't be a good idea to discuss. However, I don't see how it can hurt. A former 9 year employee (at least he claimed to be) posted under a PRS related thread a while back on TGP. What he essentially said was the atmosphere around PRS wasn't the most upbeat. PRS is essentially breaking even monthly. Core production is halved. There wasn't money for equipment after the addition was built. Paul's investors are not happy with returns.
My opinion is this seams plausible. All of PRS moves lately have been with the idea of moving units. The CE-Lite is an example. The limited private stocks that Paul knows will be snatched up by collectors for big profits are another. Refusing to let the PTC install 85/15s further back up that point.
I'm in no way disrespecting the brand.. just relaying what I've heard. I don't want to see anything happen to PRS.
CatStrangler
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Just to keep it in perspective, this is one account from a former employee. On the other hand I suspect that if core production is down, sales are down, and I don't think that would be true just for PRS. I suspect the whole industry is experiencing a slowdown.
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