Best Single Coil: McCarty vs 408 vs DGT

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Holy Grail guitar: Les Paul R9 sounding HB in the bridge, and a Strat single coil in the neck for that clean, spacious, hollow sound. My 513 doesn't quite pull it off. The neck pick-up in single-coil mode is too thin. All three guitars above offer a HB in the bridge, and the single-coil option in the neck. For that air-filled, clean sound in the neck and a LP sound in the bridge, what comes closest?
 
I've had McCarty's, I heard 408's in real life, and DGT's only in videos... So I'll say DGT's 'cause there's still a chance they could sound authentic-er-ish.
 
Let's see if I have your thinking here:

You want a guitar that sounds exactly like it has a maple bolt-on neck with 25.5 inch scale and a tremolo, a thinner ash or alder body, and a single coil pickup mounted on a plastic pick guard on the neck pickup. And that same guitar has to sound exactly like it has a 24.5 inch scale mahogany glued-in neck, with a two piece bridge, a thick mahogany body with a maple cap, and and a humbucker mounted to the wood in the bridge position. And you want this in one guitar.

Do I have that right? ;)

Sorry for the humor, but you get the idea. What gives each one of your grails its tone isn't just a pickup. It's a combination of a lot of factors, all of which add up to a tone.

You want two grail tones, buy two guitars.
 
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Very valid reply and never apologize for humor. I know it wasn't mean-spirited. The best sound I've got comes from my Custom 22 with P90's in the neck position. But I've never been a fan of single-coils in the bridge. Love the sound of my LP R9 for the bridge. So, trying to figure out how close I can get to my ideal combination. Even thought of buying a used C22 w/P90s, and having a HB installed in place of the bridge P90. At some level, PRS must be chasing that versatility since they offer so many SC/HB combinations. So I'm curious which PRS model comes the closest.
 
Very valid reply and never apologize for humor. I know it wasn't mean-spirited. The best sound I've got comes from my Custom 22 with P90's in the neck position. But I've never been a fan of single-coils in the bridge. Love the sound of my LP R9 for the bridge. So, trying to figure out how close I can get to my ideal combination. Even thought of buying a used C22 w/P90s, and having a HB installed in place of the bridge P90. At some level, PRS must be chasing that versatility since they offer so many SC/HB combinations. So I'm curious which PRS model comes the closest.

By coincidence, I had a CU22 Soapbar for many years, and really loved how the neck pickup sounded, just as you do. And of course, it has a maple neck.

I've also had the 408 and currently have the new McCarty, as well as a McCarty Singlecut. I think the neck pickup sound you're after mainly comes from both the pickup and a maple neck. If you got a 408 with a maple neck, which is I think available with Artist Package, you'd come pretty close on the neck pickup, and you might be able to live with the bridge pickup tone, as it's pretty PAF-like with a 'hog neck. The problem is that the maple neck will brighten that bridge pickup quite a lot and take it out of true LP range.

And vice-versa if you get the mahogany neck version.

I have a new McCarty with the 58/15 pickups, and mine is a Wood Library version from Northeast Music with a maple neck. There's no artist package for the McCarty yet, so you'd have to take that Wood Library route for the maple neck., which frankly is a better deal anyway since it's less costly than the Artist package and everything is as nice, including the case. The coil splits on the neck pickup do sound great, perhaps the nicest sounding coil splits I've heard on a traditional humbucker, so you might like that very much.

The bridge pickup is very sweet and PAF-like, more traditional sounding than the 408's, but the poison you pick with the maple neck is that you do get a brighter tone than you would with a mahogany neck version. So there's this dilemma, given what you're aiming for.

I think the problem that can't be escaped is that the neck woods and other parts matter a lot, and there isn't really much getting around that, except...and this is gonna sound a little crazy...

The Eventide H9 has an EQ program called something like "Lester to Leo" and one called "Leo to Lester." I have to say this: they're pretty darn good. I have played my McCarty Singlecut through "Lester to Leo" and was amazed. Made it sound like a Strat. I haven't tried the other program yet, as there wasn't an occasion to. But I wouldn't be surprised if it made it work.

Glad you appreciated the humor, best I could do on short notice! ;)
 
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Why is it when everyone says "single coil" it has to mean Strat or Tele? Nobody wants that awesome p-90 sound? That's what I think of when I hear my 53/10's split.
 
DGT neck pickup with volume on 5 is my new fav neckpickup sound.Try that with your R9.What sounds do you mean with each pickup?Distorted with bridge pickup and clean with neckpickup?
 
I love my Brent Mason, but I think I'd have to give it to swede71 and serglodeblanc, Try a DGT.

I couldn't state it better than Les, though.
 
AS far as variety of sounds my CU24 ( VB/HFS ) does the best job of everything and most Straty in position 2 and 4 and all the bucker positions have something great to offer
My 408 ( Rosewood neck, Hog body ) has its own thing going different EQ pallet but I will happily bring just this guitar to a jam really cuts thur a mix
 
^^^ Should echo this as well, since my Paul's also has the 'hog body with rosewood neck and brazzy fingerboard. A dream to play.
 
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