Archon 25 Plum speaker swap!

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  1. Deedsoftommy

    Deedsoftommy I ♡ chip's n' salsa.

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    After playing with my 25 watter. The stock G12t75 wasn't cutting it for me. Especially in my living room. It's to sharp, bitey, and a doesn't have the middle I need. The bass is fine. Since I own an EVH 4x12. Why not right? My middle is back and the top end is now controlled. Peace at last!!![​IMG]
     
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  2. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    Sweet! Plum rulez!
     
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  3. DreamTheaterRules

    DreamTheaterRules Archon owning member

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    The only Archon I've played was the 25 watt combo. I wanted to be blown away and wasn't, and I knew it was because I'm not a big fan of that speaker. Luckily some forum brothers sent me clips of their Archon and I immediately fell in love.

    Drop Scumback or at least a Creamback in there!
     
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  4. Fro

    Fro New Member

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    I put a Creamback in my 50 watter and couldn't be happier.
     
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  5. DreamTheaterRules

    DreamTheaterRules Archon owning member

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    Which model?

    I should also add that I am fond of a couple Eminence speakers that I have. Preferred the Private Jack over 3 different versions of Celestion Greenback, and prefer the Governor over 2 V30s I had, but not the Mesa version of the V30. Don't know if I prefer the Gov or Mesa V30 as I haven't compared them head to head in the same cab, but both are better than the two Celestions I had. Also would consider trying a Warehouse in there. The ET65 might be perfect, or one of their V30-ish speakers if you prefer that.
     
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  6. Fro

    Fro New Member

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    G12H-75. I like it so much I put one in my MarkV35 combo.
     
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  7. andross182

    andross182 New Member

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    It seems like many combo players end up swapping out the speakers, this isnt limited to the Archon either...makes one wonder how the manufacturer arrived with that speaker choice to begin with. I personally am addicted to Mesa V30s, my vert 2x12 sounds absolutely amazing with them.
     
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  8. alantig

    alantig Santana-free since '63!

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    It's a subjective preference, so it's not surprising that a lot of people might not prefer what the manufacturer thinks is the 'best' choice.

    I have a distortion pedal that has a tube in it. On a forum, someone asked the manufacturer what replacement tube would be a better choice than the stock tube. The manufacturer said, "We think we picked the best tube for the pedal. If we thought there was a better choice, that's the tube we'd have used."
     
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  9. Deedsoftommy

    Deedsoftommy I ♡ chip's n' salsa.

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    Yeah you are right. After playing on this EVH G12. I'm not digging it. So far the G12T75 and EVHG12 are a no go. I still have a V30 I can try at least. :)
     
  10. Deedsoftommy

    Deedsoftommy I ♡ chip's n' salsa.

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    Those Warehouse speakers have been looking pretty nice lately.
     
  11. Deedsoftommy

    Deedsoftommy I ♡ chip's n' salsa.

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    I'm pretty sure every one here is waiting for a sweet pine PRS Vertical 2x12 ;)
     
  12. Deedsoftommy

    Deedsoftommy I ♡ chip's n' salsa.

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    You are totally right. The manufacturer can put any speaker they feel sounds the best with an amp. I did give it a try and some time to let the G12T75 sink in, but it was time to move on. The amp is a different story. I LOVE it.
     
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    I have a G12k-100 in my Archon 50. Sound much bigger with that speaker in there. Smoother highs; bigger bottom.
     
  14. Texasdiamondback

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    Just put an Eminence V1216 into mine and It was AMAZING!!! I really feel like this is the speaker they should have put into the amp in the first place. Perfectly compliments the amp sound. Must buy! Cheaper and sounds better than WGS and Celestion.
     
  15. DreamTheaterRules

    DreamTheaterRules Archon owning member

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    I'm pretty familiar with Emi line and have a few of them. Haven't heard of the V1216. What is it?

    If I had two Archon combos, here is what I'd do. I'd put an Emi Private Jack or Scumback M75 in the first one. In the second one, I'd put a Red Fang Alnico speaker, and an NOS 5751 in V2.

    Amp #1 = RAWK! Amp #2 BLUEZ

    p.s. And where did Deedsoftommyboy go???
     
  16. TroyBaer

    TroyBaer Really knows where his towel is.

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    The V12 is Eminence's "V-30" type speaker from their Legend series, although they don't have quite the midrange spike of a real Vintage 30. (The V1216 is the 16-ohm version.) I have one paired with a GB1216 (the 16-ohm version of Emi's greenback-alike from the Legend line) in an AC30 2x12 extension cab, and it sounds great.
     
  17. DreamTheaterRules

    DreamTheaterRules Archon owning member

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    I have the Private Jack and Governor. That's the greenie and V of the Redcoat line. Same with the Gov, less spike (a few dB) than the Celestion, and I like it better. And the PJ is like a greenback without the fizz. Sounds more like the old greenbacks I've heard.

    So, that should be a great choice for the amp. And I like mixing those two as well. Right now, my Archon gets 90% of it's play time through my 2 1x12 Avatar cabs with the PJ and Gov. The mix can be aggressive of more vintage or a blend... 2 V30s are more modern sounding. Right now, I LOVE the Archon with the blend of the two.
     

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