Age takes its toll

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  1. hammeron

    hammeron New Member

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    Ok, to start off with, I'm 66, and determined not to go out quietly. This Oct I found my perfect guitar: a splendidly faded blue jean CU22 with natural back (ebony board to boot). At least I thought it was the perfect guitar. A couple of months ago I started noticing the thumb side of my left wrist was really starting to hurt like hell...continually. Now I'm already locked in a losing battle with arthritis in my left hand, and I was really bummed at the thought that the battle-lines were expanding.

    Then a few weeks ago, I was practicing (pushing through the pain) and I noticed that the discomfort throttled up considerably when I was up in the fret 12+ range. I play up there a lot, and the combined ergonomics of the fret-to-fret placement being closer to the guitar body on a 22 layout vs 24; along with how the Custom's longer top horn slides the guitar down to the right when it hangs off the shoulder (I always play standing up,) was placing my hand closer-in towards my body and forcing my hand to cock backwards in order to play in the upper range.

    With this in mind, I laid off the CU22 and stuck with my Hagstrom Deuce (a symmetrical double cut) for a week. This placed my left hand much further to left when playing at the 12th fret, and kept my wrist good and straight. And sure enough, the pain was gone.

    Now I dig the hell out of my Hag, but it ain't no PRS. So I needed a Made-in-Maryland solution to my problem. The answer: a PRS Santana. 24 frets and a symmetrical double cut.

    So the Blue-jean CU22 is going on the blocks, which really breaks my heart. BUT...I just found a spectacular Charcoal Santana Retro with natural back hiding in Germany! It's stunning.It's on it's way. And I'm super psyched.

    I'll post a NGD separately, but in the interest of science and medicine, I thought I'd share this with the aging among us.
     
  2. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc “Evil” Sergio. You can tell by the goatee

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    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    This! Times infinity!
     
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  4. dmatthews

    dmatthews Dave's not here...

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    Way to turn a problem into no problem, congrats!
     
  5. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc “Evil” Sergio. You can tell by the goatee

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    If you connect with it... you’ll realize all other guitars are trash. I barely touch my non-Santana guitars anymore, it’s a perfect guitar for me.
     
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    I'm on the older side too, so I understand how critical guitar neck & body position is. One reason I've kept my PRS SE Custom 24 is it balances perfectly hanging from a strap. I've had a number of other electric guitars that turned out to be neck heavy, and the extra work playing them standing up wasn't worth it. So far the side to side positioning hasn't been an issue, but I appreciate learning that the Santana hangs differently. That may become important at some point.
     
  7. veinbuster

    veinbuster Zombie Three, DFZ

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    I like your path to a solution a lot.
    My playing has had to adjust a bit as my fingers become less cooperative, but so far only the 12 string is at risk.
     
  8. hammeron

    hammeron New Member

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    At least we don't play bass ;)
     
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  9. xjbebop

    xjbebop Yippy ki yay...

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    I have the same arthritis pain in the same place (left hand thumb joint). It hurts like hell sometimes and SUCKS HARD!
    Anyway, I'm not as effected by neck position as much as you are. What makes the big difference for me is neck thickness.
    I can play a fat, round neck without much, if any, pain. But the thinner the neck, the worse it gets. Needless to say, no more wizard / shredder necks for me.
     
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  10. AP515

    AP515 Mostly Normal

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    Hey, I play bass! And yes, I admit it!

    Arthritis can sometimes be a result of one's diet. I won't get on a soapbox here, but if you want to try to stop the progression and possibly reverse it, check into inflammation reducing diets. Mine has been wonderful but probably isn't for everyone. At least I can't convince everyone that it is.
     
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  11. Andrew Paul

    Andrew Paul The cat's meow

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    Sugar! Stay away from it! Makes my joints swell and hurt..... too bad I love chocolate but when I eat too much the pain begins.
     
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    Andrew Paul The cat's meow

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    Awesome!! About to look at your NGD post!
     
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    sergiodeblanc “Evil” Sergio. You can tell by the goatee

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    Yes! I struggle with long rehearsals and skinny necks now.
     
  14. jxe

    jxe babe en der wood

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    if arthritis happens to me i’ma build up the neck profile with bondo or marine fiberglass and shape it into a fat coffee table leg.
     
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    alantig Zombie Four, DFZ

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    Skinny necks don't bother me - it's the younger women they're attached to.
     
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    Jim Dandy Santana to the rescue!!
     
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  17. Warmart

    Warmart Fani PRSi

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    Well there's always Celine Dion. She was the prototype for the Wizard 3.
     
  18. DreamTheaterRules

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    I guess I should be glad that I still haven’t played one.
     
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  19. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    I’m on the way. We’re gonna take care of that!
     
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  20. veinbuster

    veinbuster Zombie Three, DFZ

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    I started out as a bass player.
    I can still comfortably play, but on bass I don’t often play more than two notes at a time....and I don’t currently have a double bass in the house - I think I’d rather have one of those than a 594, but don’t tell all the folks getting new ones.
     
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