AcuRite Humdity/Temp Monitor

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Got my quarterly publication from my favorite acoustic guitar maker yesterday. And as usual when the seasons change they had an article about protecting your acoustic from too much or too little humidity/temp during the winter. Rather than going to buy a 'solution' before I knew I even had a problem, I found this inexpensive way to check the status where I have both my electrics and acoustics stored, standing up, in their cases, in a clothes closet(with sliding doors) in a 2nd bedroom. They say 45-55% is 'ideal'. So I went and got one of these:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/AcuRite-...Temperature-Comfort-Monitor-00619HD/202260980

And put it on the shelf above the guitars(after I let it sit in the living room to make sure we got a relative baseline) and closed the doors to the closet. It reads 73F, 44%...close enough.

Wondering what other folks do.

 
I use the D'Addario Planet Waves humidification system in all of my cases, and for years in winter, have used an Air-O-Swiss steam humidifier in the room where I keep the guitars. In Michigan, it gets pretty dry in winter, a whole house humidifier (which I have) isn't enough.

The D'Addario system works incredibly well, learned about it here on the forum from my pal Corey.


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+1 on the D'Addario Planet Waves / Boveda humidification system. You can get the Boveda-braded refils in larger multi-packs for much cheaper than the D'Addario-braded ones on Amazon as well. SOOOOO much better than "today's sponge" ;)

I need to get a new in-room humidifier, as our whole-house humidifier cannot keep up as well.
 
Update: I just checked the monitor and it reads 70 degrees and 50% humidity. Of course this is not 'inside' the acoustic/electric guitar cases, the closet isn't hermetically sealed, and the unit isn't a calibrated lab instrument, but it appears that I don't need a 'solution' if the 'box' they're stored in give these basic results. (By the way, we don't need a complete home humidifier down here in Austin like some areas of the country).

I also have one of these hung right on my home thermostat and it reads 72 degrees, 45% humidity.
 
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Like Les said, Michigan winters do get DRY. Best thing you can do for your guitars in this kind of climate... is have them be PRS guitars.

Wish my skin took the seasons as well as my instruments do.
 
So my fellows Michiganders, do you case you guitars in the winter? Last year I cased all of them except the one or two I played the most. During the week I will be casing guitars since weather is dropping and the basement is getting older.
 
So my fellows Michiganders, do you case you guitars in the winter? Last year I cased all of them except the one or two I played the most. During the week I will be casing guitars since weather is dropping and the basement is getting older.

I keep mine cased when not being played all year 'round. They're less sensitive to humidity/temperature changes that way, since the cases buffer them. And I even keep a pouch with one D'Addario humidity pack in each electric guitar case, also year 'round. They absorb excess humidity as well as give it off, so there's no reason not to. So far, so good since late last winter when Corey posted about them.

I also keep the guitars in their cases, in the humidified room once the house drops below a 37% RH. My house is already reading 35% in the other rooms on my digital hygrometer, and it's not even that cold yet. The wood cases are porous enough to allow moisture in, and out, which is why even cased electrics can suffer in winter. So to a degree, they absorb some moisture from the humidifier.

In past years, just keeping mine cased in a humidified room has meant no setups for several years, instead of every change of season. I think setup needs might be even more minimal with the D'Addorio packs. I started using them late last winter on the electrics, too. But it'll take a long time to see how that goes.

It goes down to about 25-27% even with the house humidifier running full blast in the winter. That's low enough to screw up an acoustic guitar, and affect the setups on the electrics.

So far, with the D'Addario system, my acoustic is in the best playing shape it's ever been in. I really think this works well, and no doubt that's why PRS, Taylor and others recommend it. The acoustic system is three pouches, but I find that one pouch works just fine for the electrics and the bass. For those guitars, I keep the pouch in the neck area of the case.

I don't have any compelling reason to leave guitars out when I'm not playing them. Having to open a case doesn't dissuade me from playing whenever the mood strikes. And it strikes often! ;)
 
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I also have the d'addario system for my se acoustic. Never thought about my electrics. But with the count I have, this would be a little expensive. How lone does the single back work for you with your electrics?
 
I also have the d'addario system for my se acoustic. Never thought about my electrics. But with the count I have, this would be a little expensive. How lone does the single back work for you with your electrics?

Depends on the season. The packs I put in this spring still have juice after 5-6 months, but in winter they went 2-3 months. Worth the minimal expense for my guitars.

i only have four, but three are PS and the other is wood library, I try to keep them in the best shape I can.
 
Depends on the season. The packs I put in this spring still have juice after 5-6 months, but in winter they went 2-3 months. Worth the minimal expense for my guitars.

i only have four, but three are PS and the other is wood library, I try to keep them in the best shape I can.

i have 14. Core se, and other brands. 3 are in bags and the rest have a case.
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i have 14. Core se, and other brands. 3 are in bags and the rest have a case.
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That steam humidifier from Air-o-Swiss has worked for me very well for several years. It's a high quality product, I got mine with a 20% off coupon at Bed, Bath and Beyond. I had a steam humidifier that was a different brand for many years, and while it wasn't as nice as the Air-o-Swiss, it worked fine. Don't get one whose water bucket is too small, you'll be filling it constantly.

I had the dreaded white dust from a couple of humidifiers previously, that weren't supposed to do that. For some reason electronics tend to attract that dust, so I switched to this type about 15 years or so ago. The nice thing about steam humidifiers is that you don't get the white dust most humidifiers give off, a pad in the steamer absorbs minerals. It does get to be a bit of a pain to keep filling it, but I figure WTF. Even the electronic humidifiers give off that stupid dust, and so do the evaporative type.

Also, as the temp gets very cold outside, you don't want to crank up the humidity too high or you can get condensation, which is not good. So I keep it at around 40% in the dead of winter. It has a pretty accurate, built-in digital hygrometer.
 
The only guitar I've given any real special treatment to is my acoustic. I've watered her in the winter and kept cased at times. Guitars are far more resilient than we believe. Especially when well built. Few people gave humidity a thought in the early age of Les. We're talking centuries ago, even. Guitars have survived just fine. I'm not saying don't take precautions if you're worried about it, but I don't think most folks need to freak out about it either. I'm gonna guess someone like Markie, who has a bunch of nice guitars, isn't casing every one up in the winter with it's own humidifier. Neither do most stores. They may take some general precautions of humidifying the general area, I'd like to hear the thoughts of Markie, 11-top, or people who have too many guitars to realistically case up. My eldest PRS is almost 20 years old. I've not done anything special with her. She's out in the open pretty much all the time. No weather related side effects.
 
Where I live (less than 2 miles from the Pacific Ocean), the high humidity is usually not an issue , except maybe for a few weeks in August or Sept (exception - the past 2 years!!!). Low humidity can be an issue when the dreaded Santa Ana winds blow in fall & winter but usually only for a couple of days at a time.

I keep all my guitars in cases when I am not playing them and have had no issues with any of my PRS's over the say past 10 years (I cannot say the same for some other guitar brands). Maybe I am just lucky???

I do plan to buy the temperature humidity monitor discussed above and will start monitoring a bit! Thanks WeFixFlats!
 
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I live in Charlotte, NC. I've got my SE Angelus Custom that I usually leave out on a stand. We're pretty humid year round so I'm not sure if I should be concerned or not. I've always been primarily an electric player and never given much thought to humidity affecting my acoustic. It's definitely never affected my electrics (at least, not to the point of me noticing). Any thoughts/suggestions?
 
Obviously we should point out that YMMV depending on your location and conditions. It's a good idea to at least keep an eye on humidity so you know where things are at.
 
The only guitar I've given any real special treatment to is my acoustic. I've watered her in the winter and kept cased at times. Guitars are far more resilient than we believe. Especially when well built. Few people gave humidity a thought in the early age of Les. We're talking centuries ago, even. Guitars have survived just fine. I'm not saying don't take precautions if you're worried about it, but I don't think most folks need to freak out about it either. I'm gonna guess someone like Markie, who has a bunch of nice guitars, isn't casing every one up in the winter with it's own humidifier. Neither do most stores. They may take some general precautions of humidifying the general area, I'd like to hear the thoughts of Markie, 11-top, or people who have too many guitars to realistically case up. My eldest PRS is almost 20 years old. I've not done anything special with her. She's out in the open pretty much all the time. No weather related side effects.

Well, yes and no. Most of the acoustic instruments that have survived over the centuries have had multiple cracks repaired. This applies not just to guitars, but to many different wooden instruments that have cracked and dried, like woodwinds, pianos, etc. If you read up on very old instruments, you'll see that many spruce tops were repaired with strips of cloth or paper glued under a crack to effect a repair. To a slightly lesser degree, these kinds of repairs were also done to the backs and sides of very old instruments.

Also, it wasn't until the mid 20th Century that home builders got seriously into forced air heat. Forced air heat dries out instruments more than the radiator heat that came into use at the end of the 19th Century. Before that, there's a reason people wore gloves indoors, frock coats, etc. So dryness is a worse issue now than it was even 75 years ago.

Every single acoustic guitar maker, without exception, recommends keeping a guitar in its case when not in use, and using some kind of humidification in cold winter weather. Taylor and PRS have made videos on the subject, and Taylor puts a reminder into its newsletter every fall. This is the PRS video:


https://www.taylorguitars.com/sites/default/files/10_UsingaGuitarHumidifier.pdf

https://www.martinguitar.com/images/stories/carefeeding.pdf

http://bourgeoisguitars.net/support/guitar-care/

http://www.larrivee.com/pdfs/Larrivee Care Maintenance.pdf

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyl...011/The-Care-and-Feeding-of-Your-Guitars.aspx

http://www.burgessviolins.com/humidity.html

Here's a quote from Premier Guitar on humidity for electric guitars, http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Fighting_the_Humidity_Battle:

"All guitars should be humidified, even electric solidbodies. Newer guitars generally need more moisture because the wood is kiln-dried, as opposed to a vintage guitar made from air-dried wood. The difference between kiln and air-dried wood is dramatic. Kiln-dried wood uses heat to dry the wood to accelerate the aging process. However, these guitars require more moisture to prevent warping and cracking. Air-dried wood is more stable, especially in vintage guitars, because the wood was generally aged over a decade before being made into a guitar. As a result, the cracked wood was removed from the pile and used for something else. Guitars made from air-dried wood still need humidity to sound best, but they retain moisture better than their modern counterparts."

Of course, I have zero problem with anyone deciding that they don't want to go to the trouble, after all, it's their guitar, not mine. However, it's difficult to argue with the fact that wooden instruments have humidity issues that ideally should be addressed.
 
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I wasn't referring to acoustics in the bulk of my post, hence the special treatment to my acoustic. I understand and don't completely disagree with the info you posted regarding electrics. I think it's far less of an issue with electrics though. I'm well aware old acoustics cracking. Pretty much no one did the humidifiers in cases with electrics 20 years ago. If you live somewhere really dry or have your heat cranking all the time, yeah, maybe you need to do something. It's still 60% humidity in my house right now. Sorry I blew up.
Well, yes and no. Most of the acoustic instruments that have survived over the centuries have had multiple cracks repaired. This applies not just to guitars, but to many different wooden instruments that have cracked and dried, like woodwinds, pianos, etc. If you read up on very old instruments, you'll see that many spruce tops were repaired with strips of cloth or paper glued under a crack to effect a repair. To a slightly lesser degree, these kinds of repairs were also done to the backs and sides of very old instruments.

Also, it wasn't until the mid 20th Century that home builders got seriously into forced air heat. Forced air heat dries out instruments more than the radiator heat that came into use at the end of the 19th Century. Before that, there's a reason people wore gloves indoors, frock coats, etc. So dryness is a worse issue now than it was even 75 years ago.

Every single acoustic guitar maker, without exception, recommends keeping a guitar in its case when not in use, and using some kind of humidification in cold winter weather. Taylor and PRS have made videos on the subject, and Taylor puts a reminder into its newsletter every fall. This is the PRS video:


https://www.taylorguitars.com/sites/default/files/10_UsingaGuitarHumidifier.pdf

https://www.martinguitar.com/images/stories/carefeeding.pdf

http://bourgeoisguitars.net/support/guitar-care/

http://www.larrivee.com/pdfs/Larrivee Care Maintenance.pdf

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyl...011/The-Care-and-Feeding-of-Your-Guitars.aspx

http://www.burgessviolins.com/humidity.html

Here's a quote from Premier Guitar on humidity for electric guitars, http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Fighting_the_Humidity_Battle:

"All guitars should be humidified, even electric solidbodies. Newer guitars generally need more moisture because the wood is kiln-dried, as opposed to a vintage guitar made from air-dried wood. The difference between kiln and air-dried wood is dramatic. Kiln-dried wood uses heat to dry the wood to accelerate the aging process. However, these guitars require more moisture to prevent warping and cracking. Air-dried wood is more stable, especially in vintage guitars, because the wood was generally aged over a decade before being made into a guitar. As a result, the cracked wood was removed from the pile and used for something else. Guitars made from air-dried wood still need humidity to sound best, but they retain moisture better than their modern counterparts."

Of course, I have zero problem with anyone deciding that they don't want to go to the trouble, after all, it's their guitar, not mine. However, it's difficult to argue with the fact that wooden instruments have humidity issues that ideally should be addressed.
 
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Yup I agree, Vaughn, it's less of an issue with electrics. But my thinking is...well...it certainly doesn't hurt to take the precautions, and the setups do seem to stay good longer, so that's not a bad thing, either. Then again, I freely admit to being a maniac.

But you're right, I had guitars for many years before getting into this whole humidity care thing, and most stayed just fine, though from time to time setups and sharp fret ends due to fretboard shrinkage caused issues that I haven't had since I started being a nutcase over this stuff.
 
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