594 bridge pickup.....

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  1. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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    So I love my new 594 but ultimately want to play it more and need/want a hotter bridge pickup for it to suit my tastes. I would normally just shove a 59/09 in a McCarty and rock on but am curious if anyone else has done a swap on their 594 yet and what did you put in there.

    As this has a shorter scale length I wonder what the effect on tone is with a 59/09 or any hotter than PAF pickup. You all with the DC245's, SC245's and the like what have you put into your bridge position and how do you like it?

    I intend to keep the coil split capability of the new bridge pup.

    Love to hear you input on this.
     
  2. bodia

    bodia Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved

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    I think the 59/09 would work out great. I say that only because that's what Brian spec'd in his WL run, and that's what I've got coming! :p

    However, I do have a SC Ted and it's loaded with 59/09. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE that guitar.
     
  3. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Not that it's any of my business, but couldn't you just goose it a little with a clean boost pedal, and then still have the low wind pickup for what it does best when you need that?
     
  4. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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    Could use a boost but I pretty much live in the higher gain world where you might go there infrequently when needed. I much prefer to get my main tone from guitar/cable/amp as much as possible. The bridge low wind pickup is wasted on me, I love the neck and middle position tones but the clean bridge is not where I spend any time.
     
  5. sergiodeblanc

    sergiodeblanc Rah rah ah ah ah!

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    Chainsaw or HFS II. ;)
     
  6. CantankerousCarl

    CantankerousCarl Occasionally Onery Member

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    I have Dragon 1s in a 24.75" scale Knaggs, and FWIW I find them a bit lifeless. But they take gain really well. Really hard to flubb them out even by really messing up the Boogie tone stack :)
     
  7. Bowtiefanatc

    Bowtiefanatc #NeverGibson

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    I have a Riff Raff in my SC245 and it's fantastic
     
  8. aristotle

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    Never played the low output version in the 594, but the 85/15s in my 30th CU24 "seem" noticeably hotter than 59/09s in other guitars I have. I say "seem" because I've never actually measured them or done a scientific side-by-side comparison. But I'd think that the 85/15s could be a better overall fit with the 594 than 59/09s based on what you describe as your tastes...
     
  9. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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    I get the impression that a 58/15 is a new version of the 57/08 and likewise for the 85/5 and 59/09. A 57/08 would be on the low side of acceptable in terms of output, had them before and always ended up yanking them for a 59/09 so a lower output version is definitley soft for me.

    I have to say it sounds amazing clean though and wish i had a 'spare' mccarty to put it into just for limited nodling around with.
     
  10. Tosca

    Tosca Death by a million mini-toggles...

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    I have a PS McCarty SC with a 57/08 neck and 59/09 bridge and find it a great combo for what you describe wanting from a short scale guitar. Looking forward to the Brian's 594 WL run to do a more apples to apples comparison between the 58/15LT and a 59/09 in the bridge of a 594.
     
  11. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    Not really like the 57/08, it's actually quite different, IMHO. The 85/15 in my CU24, as Aristotle says, "seems" quite a bit hotter than the 58/15 in my McCarty.

    Of course, you should do whatever suits your needs!
     
  12. gush

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    I had 5909s in my 2000 McCarty for a while and they totally kicked butt! I only took them out because started keeping this guitar in lower tunings and the 5909s didn't quite have enough power for that.
     
  13. vchizzle

    vchizzle Birdman.

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    5909, just do it. Have you tried raising the bridge pickup height? I raised my bridge 5708 really high and it rocks that way. Enough that I don't want to change it.
     
  14. Dusty Chalk

    Dusty Chalk alberngruppenf├╝hrer

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    Trade it with someone here, I know I would love a 58/15LT...but then, I don't have anything PRS to trade...at least not yet...

    Yeah, I kind of flinched a little when PRSh made that statement at Experience -- why would you want the same sound on both neck and bridge? Isn't the whole point of the 594 to mix it up a little?

    I really like Brian's (and others') approach(es) to putting different combinations of pickups in neck and bridge.
     
  15. HANGAR18

    HANGAR18 ...a TWISTED SISTER pin?!

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    Just an idea... Leave the 594 as is and get another guitar with a hotter pickup. It may take a while to fully realize the genius of the 594 and there is no rule that says only one guitar must do every job possible (although PRS does make some guitar models which come damn close).
     
  16. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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    I have thought of this but it feels so good and i want to play it more, a hotter pup with the thick body should sound awesome. I have a nickel covered \m/ in my stash pile but i dont want to go that far, i think a 59/09 might work perfect. I put a SD JB in my McCarty and it does not have the same sizzle as a 59/09. Probably will sell or trade the \m/ for a 59/09. I think Brian has it right with his WL run.
     
  17. CantankerousCarl

    CantankerousCarl Occasionally Onery Member

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    I can vouch for the fact that the neck and bridge sound quite different, despite being the same pickups.

    I understand Wedge's wanting a hotter bridge pup. There is a big difference in the sound between the 594 and a regular McCarty, and the regular one is definitely a more aggressive-sounding guitar. The 594 is smoother, but not mellow.

    I dig both, but if I played high-gain stuff all the time, I would probably reach for the regular McC more myself.
     
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  18. Dusty Chalk

    Dusty Chalk alberngruppenf├╝hrer

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    I don't doubt it. The physics makes sense. I guess I just got confused by PRSh's statement.
     
  19. clasbtenn

    clasbtenn New Member

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    If you don't specifically desire a PRS replacement pickup for the bridge, look at Wolftone pickups. They make different winds for different styles and will even custom wind to your specs.

    They sound different enough from similar pickups I have in an identical guitar, as whenever I bring out my latest signature XOX Audio Tools guitar, even the audience can hear enough of a difference to compliment me.

    The bridge pup is 8.4 ohms, but that might not be hot enough for your particular music. It's like a slightly overwound PAF, with an alnico V magnet.
     
  20. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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    I had a Wolfetone Marshallhead that was great. I have heard only good things about the whole lineup.
     

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