25th Annversary Amp- replacement internal fuses??

guitarjb44

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Hello all.

I need to replace two of the four internal fuses in my PRS 25th Anniversary 50-watt amp. I opened it up yesterday and the two fuses that have red wires connected to them (the two on the right side in the photo below) tested open (no continuity).

The problem is: I have not found ANYWHERE, online or otherwise, that stocks ceramic fuses rated at 440v. The tag inside the amp states to use only type 3AG 500mA 440v fuses. Is this a rare or obscure fuse, or am I simply not looking in the right places?



Also: does anyone have a schematic for this amp, or do you know what each pair of fuses is connected to and are intended to protect? I assume the two in question are between the output tubes and output transformer? This assumption is based on the fact that all the tubes and indicator light were working, but I got no sound at all out of the amp. That is the problem I was having that caused me to check the fuses in the first place. I already tried swapping in a known-good preamp tube one at a time. I didn't do the same with the power tubes because they LOOK fine, and these two fuses are clearly blown anyway. Therefore, even if I replaced both power tubes, the amp would still not operate with the fuses blown.

The last time I played the amp was about six days ago. When I turned it on it was intermittent at first- which I assumed was a loose or failing preamp tube- but after a few minutes the intermittence went away. Yesterday, I turn it on, wait a minute, then turn on standby- complete silence. No burning smell or anything else to indicate trouble. And again, all pre and power tubes seem to be operating normally...???

Advice...?

Joe
 
This link looks correct, a 3AG quick blow 500mA, 440V ceramic fuse; if memory serves (and mine might be faulty), a blown fuse often means a bad output tube, as I don't think the 25th Anni amp is tube rectified, but it could be something else if something really extreme happened:

http://octopart.com/l693+500ma-belling+lee-7477505
 
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Thank you for that link. After my initial post, I did find the same thing (what appears to be an exact replacement) at digikey.com. But, I don;'t know if it is supposed to be fast-blow or slow-blow ( I assume slow-blow), and does the 440v mean AC voltage or DC voltage (I assume DC)? I'm going to call PRS tomorrow- someone there can probably answer those questions over the phone, and maybe suggest a parts supplier for the fuses.

I also assume you are correct re. the power tubes: even though they are lighting-up, perhaps something is up with one of them.

Thanks again.

Joe
 
Thanks for this- but, I found that site earlier and I still can't determine which is correct. Maybe I am missing it, but the ones I see that are rated at 440V do not have a listing for a .5A (500mA). Also: I still don't know if it's slow-blow or fast-blow.

Joe

Hey Joe (hmmm, like the song), give PRS customer service a call or email, they'll let you know.
 
I'm with Les on the output tube point. I think (again, I'm with Les on his faulty memory caveat), you'll want to replace the power tubes along with the fuses. If you just replace the fuses, you are likely to blow them again.

Maybe one of your local shops has a tube tester and can check for you. Orange now makes a handy small tester that isn't too expensive, especially for a store that sells tubes and tube amps. Personally, I think all shops should have one now. I've been tempted, but then I see a Paul's or Mason that sounds like so much more fun than a tube tester!
 
I backup the comments so far and heartily recommend emailing Matt for clarification. Something obviously pissed-off those fuses!
 
I found what appears to be an exact replacement fuse on www.digikey.com.

I'm still gong to call PRS to get their input, suggestions, etc. To be on the safe side, I'll replace the power tubes before replacing the fuses.

Joe
 
I called PRS and spoke to Matt King. He's going to mail me a couple replacement fuses at no cost to me. So nice of him!

Joe
 
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