24-08 pickup question

srmd22

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I see a lot of these with 85/15's and also a few with 58/15's. I actually dig the way a couple of the ones with the 58/15's look, and was flirting with maybe getting one. I played a CE24 with the 85/15's and they sounded pretty good to me, from what I could tell, at pretty low volumes in a music store (which is not too meaningful, but it is something anyway). I tend to dig lower output pick-ups, which I am assuming the 58's are, but I was wondering if anyone who has some experience with both could tell me about the differences. Also, would the 58's split okay with the wiring scheme of the 24-08? I am really curious about both pickups.

Over the years I have had VB/HFS (did not like them, and replaced them with lower output Wolfetones, which sounded great in that guitar), 57/08's (liked them a lot - in a McCarty), and 53/10's (loved them, those were my favorites, but who knows how much was the guitar and how much the pickups). I have an incoming 408 on the way, but I have lately really missed the Cu24's I have had over the years, and think I might want to get one back into the collection at some point. There are some used ones out there with 59/09's and 57/08's also, but I dig the 24-08 (408) switching set up.
 
The 58's have a vintagey midrange growl to them, while the 85's are more bright and open. The output of both sets is the same; I'd call it moderate output.
 
Interesting - I usually think of vintage pickups as having an open sound, and more modern pick ups sometimes having more mid-range. Eg, PAF style sounds cleaner and more even, as well as (or because of, I don't know) having lower output. Sounds like I can't go wrong either way, though, so I think I will probably go with one of the 58 versions.
 
Interesting - I usually think of vintage pickups as having an open sound, and more modern pick ups sometimes having more mid-range. Eg, PAF style sounds cleaner and more even, as well as (or because of, I don't know) having lower output. Sounds like I can't go wrong either way, though, so I think I will probably go with one of the 58 versions.

I think you're spot on. So called "modern" pickups are often wound hotter than PAF types. Along with all that extra wire comes more midrange. The 85/15 is in the PAF output camp, but compared to the 58/15, it has more top end.
 
I think you're spot on. So called "modern" pickups are often wound hotter than PAF types. Along with all that extra wire comes more midrange. The 85/15 is in the PAF output camp, but compared to the 58/15, it has more top end.

That makes sense - actually, the 85/15 sounds pretty attractive from that perspective. A little more high end can be very helpful in the mix.
 
I love the 85/15s for my "modern" guitar. I definitely like the 58/15s in a more 594 or SC style guitar for some reason.
 
24-08 Sidebar Question!

Anyone else notice that the neck pickup is rotated to have the screw side towards the bridge rather than the neck? This done to add more top end?

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Yup, I remember reading about that, or seeing it on a youtube somewhere. Well, I will probably end up with both flavors at some point, knowing me. I'm about to do a bit of a sell off to make room for more incoming.
 
I was talking to the folks at Wild West Guitars and they said the 58/15's were basically covered 85/15's. I know pick up covers do slightly alter the tone - but is that really the only difference?
 
I was talking to the folks at Wild West Guitars and they said the 58/15's were basically covered 85/15's. I know pick up covers do slightly alter the tone - but is that really the only difference?

Shawn had said there's more than just the cover, but he was mum on what the difference is.

I suspect different magnets, because to my ear the sound difference is bigger than just a cover.
 
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