22 Frets. The 23rd & 24th Frets. The older 21 fret guitars. Cutaway Acoustics.

Abe

ABe©eDarian
Joined
Jun 26, 2024
Messages
577
Location
Ethereal
Who has always played on 22 fret electric guitars?

Who acquired a 24 fret electric guitar then wanted to abandon all 22 fret guitars like they no longer suit them?

Who finds it to not be a big deal to go back and forth?

Who's played on like the 21 fret Fender Strats? Strats didn't get the 22nd fret until the 80's.

My younger brother says there's this song that David Gilmour when he plays live neglects to play the complete solo of because of frets of guitars he uses live, denying my brother of the solo's climax because of it! 😆


^Something about the bends at around 4:33 & 4:43 he says.

And here's him on his brandless 24 fret studio guitar.


And, last question, who plays Acoustic Guitar exclusively on cutaway acoustics for the higher fret access?

There's a video of Steve Vai showing his guitar collection with some that have like a weird 16 frets per octave and another with like 30 frets etc.

Me, once I played on my first cutaway acoustic guitar I wanted to exclusively do that because of finding the non-cutaway acoustics so limiting for lead.
And, aside from trying my bro's 21 fret Gilmour Fender and also his 24 fret Ibanezes, I've only played on 22 fret electrics. I figure the 23rd & 24th fret will be nice to have someday (2 full octaves of frets w/ unbent strings), but in the meantime I'm quite accustomed to the last fret with a full step bend being the method with which to access that 2nd octave up.

Obviously the notes repeat upwards and downwards on every guitar so there's always a way. I guess it really depends on how much one always plays the same things the same ways, and of course they will all have to sound different. Then there's the scale and pickup position difference making a difference.

My future ideal electric guitar is kind of a brainstorm in the making while I count my blessings with contentedness for what I have now. Interested in the infinite within the limits and the limits within the infinite.

☮️
 
Who has always played on 22 fret electric guitars?
Who's always played a 120 button accordion?

Answer: No one cares because accordions are annoying.

The same might be said about listening to someone play notes high enough on the fretboard to cause madness (it is a proven scientific fact that listening regularly to guitar playing above the 12th fret causes psychosis; ignore the scientific fact that I just made that up).
Who acquired a 24 fret electric guitar then wanted to abandon all 22 fret guitars like they no longer suit them?
Someone with arms long enough to reach the tuning machines without difficulty.
Who finds it to not be a big deal to go back and forth?
See answer to first question.
Who's played on like the 21 fret Fender Strats? Strats didn't get the 22nd fret until the 80's.
All human life ended in 1970. Ever since then we've just been digital illusions in an alien's computer game.
And, last question, who plays Acoustic Guitar exclusively on cutaway acoustics for the higher fret access?
See answer to first question.
 
Last edited:
All human life ended in 1970. Ever since then we've just been digital illusions in an alien's computer game.

And humans historically had 6 fingers. The game’s renderer only does five, save for when it screws up.

I actually knew a guy with an extra finger on each hand years ago. Rather like an extra couple of frets on the guitar, I barely noticed and never had need of his extra digits. He could put a mean spin on a tennis ball, though.
 
I have come to realise I prefer 22 fret (PRS) guitars. Mostly because I like the ergonomics better: bridge position, neck alignment when I am standing etc. I rarely ever use the 23-24th fret, so there is no reason to ckmpromise ergonomics. That being said: I love my CU24.
 
Who finds it to not be a big deal to go back and forth?

Who's played on like the 21 fret Fender Strats? Strats didn't get the 22nd fret until the 80's.
I have electric guitars with 21, 22 and 24 frets, and it generally is not a big deal to go back and forth. I had a 21-fret Strat and a 22-fret LP for years before I finally got a CU24 (my first PRS). So I was used to that "limitation" - and that's why I wanted to explore 24 frets, because it seemed like some extra tonal range to play with.

There was one point, after I played my CU24 for a long time, and went to play a 22 fret guitar occasionally (but not as often) that I'd get confused when jumping down to the 12th fret for a solo and missing it by two frets. But I don't have that issue any more.

But I also now play 8 and 7 string multiscale guitars (that have 24 frets), along with other stringed musical instruments like mandolins, mandolas, banjos (5 string and 4 string Irish Tenor), ukuleles, and bass. I think playing a variety of instruments has helped my brain adapt to whatever happens to be in my hands. If I played just a Strat for my whole like, I might find it awkward to hold a CU24.

Who acquired a 24 fret electric guitar then wanted to abandon all 22 fret guitars like they no longer suit them?
Someone with arms long enough to reach the tuning machines without difficulty.
The distance to the B and e tuning pegs on a Strat are worse than the D and G on a CU24. I just measured: 32" from bridge to e tuner post on Strat or Tele, 30" from bridge to D/G posts on a Cu24 - and of course the distance on a CU22 is the same as the CU24, because the scale length is the same. That extra inch of "neck" for the extra 2 frets on the CU24 really does not compare... ;)
 
I don’t use anything higher than the 12th fret.
How on earth do you play the solos for Comfortably Numb? Especially the second? And as the OP pointed out, the solo(s) for Money?

Also, I need to address this:

And here's him on his brandless 24 fret studio guitar.
It isn't brand-less, it is a Bill Lewis. OK, not a typical F&G brand type, but Page apparently had/has one too.

Here's good article on it:

https://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=89#:~:text=The Bill Lewis was perhaps,part of the Money solo.
 
The distance to the B and e tuning pegs on a Strat are worse than the D and G on a CU24. I just measured: 32" from bridge to e tuner post on Strat or Tele, 30" from bridge to D/G posts on a Cu24 - and of course the distance on a CU22 is the same as the CU24, because the scale length is the same. That extra inch of "neck" for the extra 2 frets on the CU24 really does not compare... ;)
I know. I was making a joke. I've had 24 fret guitars on and off for years.
 
I started playing 24 frets guitars, so that's where I feel more comfortable. Not that I use those 23 / 24 frets that much, but when going beyond the 12th fret I guess my mind starts counting from the end of the board to find the correct note (ie. to quickly find the 17th fret that's 2 inlays marks from the end of the fretboard), so 22 fret guitars confuse me a lot when soloing.

My PRS Tremonti has forced me to learn my way navigating these guitars, it sounds and feels so good!


Oh wait so 21 fret guitars are a real thing?
 
Back
Top