2021 - McCarty Models change tuners again?
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dmatthews
Dave's not here
There was a transition period. 2021 are now vintage tuners but some early ones came with phase III
NoisyDante
There’s a fine line between stupid and clever.
Obviously it’s the slow incursion of communist spies infiltrating the factory floor.
I’ve actually seen both tuners represented on 2021 models, maybe it’s an option based on finish?
I’ve actually seen both tuners represented on 2021 models, maybe it’s an option based on finish?
Herr Squid
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I thought there was a dealer option to order the Phase III locking tuners rather than the standard-issue vintage/kluson style
bodia
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This!
alantig
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I'd hate to be the guy on the cusp of that transition with three or four locking tuners and two or three vintage.
NoisyDante
There’s a fine line between stupid and clever.
CrimesAgainstMusic
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I have to be one of the world's worst string changers. I have installed SE Lockers on my 2 SE's and assuming I get my Hollowbody, will install a third set.
BUT... My S2 McCarty Thinline (a super sweetie), came with the Vintage Style Non- Lockers... but these were 3 curious things about them.
They come with beautiful brass shafts to lock the string around.
From the Factory, they came strung with a MINIMUN number of winds on the posts (like they were lockers )
They "feel" better than the SE Lockers in making micro adjustments...
So when I got brave enough to change the strings from 10's to 8's (reduced string tension, with no negative impacts on tone, sustain etc)
The Factory string job looked so pretty, I didn't want to mess with it. But I dutifully watched Skitchy's video in the PRS Tech Center. learned how to Wrap... Now I'm a "Wrapper" ...and I'll be keeping the "Vintage jobbies" which hold tune as well or better than the SE lockers on the guitar...
Are Pflaze III Lockers waay better ? I dunno, they look cool enough, but man they have to be some of the most expensive lockers on the market ...
BUT... My S2 McCarty Thinline (a super sweetie), came with the Vintage Style Non- Lockers... but these were 3 curious things about them.
They come with beautiful brass shafts to lock the string around.
From the Factory, they came strung with a MINIMUN number of winds on the posts (like they were lockers )
They "feel" better than the SE Lockers in making micro adjustments...
So when I got brave enough to change the strings from 10's to 8's (reduced string tension, with no negative impacts on tone, sustain etc)
The Factory string job looked so pretty, I didn't want to mess with it. But I dutifully watched Skitchy's video in the PRS Tech Center. learned how to Wrap... Now I'm a "Wrapper" ...and I'll be keeping the "Vintage jobbies" which hold tune as well or better than the SE lockers on the guitar...
Are Pflaze III Lockers waay better ? I dunno, they look cool enough, but man they have to be some of the most expensive lockers on the market ...
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NJ Devil
DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get a PRS with winged tuners. They’re not for you.
CrimesAgainstMusic
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DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT get a PRS with winged tuners. They’re not for you.
What's a "Winged Tuner " ?
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NJ Devil
bodia
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What's a "Winged Tuner " ?
Good man!
You don’t need to know.
Yeah, they’re all reserved for Sergio!
alantig
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What's a "Winged Tuner " ?
Winged tuners offer added protection.
CrimesAgainstMusic
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Whoa ! Who the heck designed those things ? I had to "see", so I Googled them. What a mess !
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NJ Devil
They are beautiful and majestic.
Iconic as the bird inlays.
IF you know what you’re doing.
Alnus Rubra
Loving nature’s wonders
Apparently you can sky dive if you have winged tuners!
I KNEW IT! hahahaha
gwayne
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They are beautiful and majestic.
Iconic as the bird inlays.
IF you know what you’re doing.
Man, I LOVE the winged tuners.
bodia
Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved
Dig my wings, too!They are beautiful and majestic.
Iconic as the bird inlays.
IF you know what you’re doing.
I agree. The minimum winds look very elegant. And the tuning stability of these are rock solid. I thought for sure I would be swapping the stock vintage style out immediately for either the phase 3 vintage style locking tuners or some ordered by John Mann. But these vintage non locking hold tune better than the typical low mass locking tuners of CE or S2 class. The brass shaft is a nice touch. I enjoy the classy appearance without the black thumb screws.
