Not to derail..but yes...the case is outrageous. That one guitar had to come by freight.
The Forum Guitar
- Thread starter rugerpc
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OK, here's the scoop.
The model, the specs, the color, none of that matters if the guitar is not permanently identifiable as being a "Forum Guitar". That means some feature, however small, needs to be an integral and permanent part of the guitar. It also needs to be something that will not be repeated on future builds that might seek to masquerade as a forum guitar.
We have an answer back.
No.
Their counter offer was to document the guitars as forum guitars on the cover plates, outside or inside, but since the cover plates are removable, that does not satisfy the permanent identification criteria. Add to that, anyone with a gold sharpie could make a copy with just a little writing practice.
So, that would seem to kill the effort this time around.
Look at it this way, I just saved a few of you (including myself) about $4500 to spend on something else.
The model, the specs, the color, none of that matters if the guitar is not permanently identifiable as being a "Forum Guitar". That means some feature, however small, needs to be an integral and permanent part of the guitar. It also needs to be something that will not be repeated on future builds that might seek to masquerade as a forum guitar.
We have an answer back.
No.
Their counter offer was to document the guitars as forum guitars on the cover plates, outside or inside, but since the cover plates are removable, that does not satisfy the permanent identification criteria. Add to that, anyone with a gold sharpie could make a copy with just a little writing practice.
So, that would seem to kill the effort this time around.
Look at it this way, I just saved a few of you (including myself) about $4500 to spend on something else.
markd21
New Member
You're welcome.
DUDE!!!!! In all seriousness - ditch the ridiculous BC Rich points and I LOVE that guitar!!!!! What color is that???? The 80's guy in me just went into FULL flashback mode.....
toothace
Zombie Thirteen, DFZ
That was a quick painless death...THank you Bill for looking into this!
Bill SAS 513
Just another old guy in a T-shirt
The hottest guitar on the planet right now is the Silver Sky. Why not ask PRS for a custom colour that is not offered right now, like Frost Blue or Green Frost Metallic. Slap a Forum designed neck plate and Pauls john doe on the back of the headstock. The down side of course would be the wait...can you say 2020.
Thanks for your effort, but I don't see why it has to have something unique. A limited run (even a numbered one) doesn't have that. The back plate is numbered xx/xxx and that can be removed but it doesn't prevent a limited run.
I think a forum guitar can just be a cool limited run numbered for however many of us buy one. It can have WL appointments and maybe something unique like a P90.
Substituting a different sized pup in a WL build is not possible, period.
The ‘something unique’ was, and continues to be, the thing that did and will kill this project, at least at ANY level below PS.
I think the number of people who can afford a PS here is quite small. Of that number, most have already bought one and/or have very specific things they want on their builds. For people who can only afford one PS ever, they are not going to sacrifice any spec they personally want so that their PS will be a ‘forum guitar’. That’s a recipe for too much divergence and non-agreement to make any set of builds a recognized cohesive set.
Many may disagree with me, but the concept of a forum guitar strikes me as a nearly homogenous build varying only in the smallest specs from guitar to guitar, like color - as though it was a limited edition made available to forum members.
Calling one guy’s Santana, another’s CU24 and yet another’s 594 all “Forum Guitars” because they share a numbered and signed removable cover plate doesn’t make any sense to me.
If someone wants to pick up the gauntlet and continue with the cover plate idea (the only unique feature PRS will agree to at any level below PS), have at it.
The ‘something unique’ was, and continues to be, the thing that did and will kill this project, at least at ANY level below PS.
I think the number of people who can afford a PS here is quite small. Of that number, most have already bought one and/or have very specific things they want on their builds. For people who can only afford one PS ever, they are not going to sacrifice any spec they personally want so that their PS will be a ‘forum guitar’. That’s a recipe for too much divergence and non-agreement to make any set of builds a recognized cohesive set.
Many may disagree with me, but the concept of a forum guitar strikes me as a nearly homogenous build varying only in the smallest specs from guitar to guitar, like color - as though it was a limited edition made available to forum members.
Calling one guy’s Santana, another’s CU24 and yet another’s 594 all “Forum Guitars” because they share a numbered and signed removable cover plate doesn’t make any sense to me.
If someone wants to pick up the gauntlet and continue with the cover plate idea (the only unique feature PRS will agree to at any level below PS), have at it.
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justmund
Plank Spanker
What would the MODCAT say?
The modcat is a series of blanks
justmund
Plank Spanker
I mean, would the MODCAT identify it as a unique FG or would it just be the base model? I'm just trying to think of something that would set the guitar aside from others, even if it is buried under the pickups (and/or on the case/hangtag)...
Andrew Paul
The cat's meow
Something with 24 frets and Paul’s signature on the front headstock. Written “Special PRS Forum Run #ed” on the back of the headstock should be enough to make it special to me.... the rest shouldn’t be that hard to agree on , people stay in the WL guidelines. Rest of the specs you all decide. I’m interested if my first sentence is included. Body shape, neck carve, pickups, won’t matter to me much for this model. 24 frets, Signature and special run title and # Matter to me.
Just my 2 cents
Again, the answer was “No”.
jfb
Plank Owner
I am certain PRS faces challenges that I do not understand when undertaking such a run of guitars. The forum appreciates the effort.
bodia
Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved
Did someone say Santana? I'm in!
justmund
Plank Spanker
Ok... Well thanks anyway mate
shallbe
New Member
Here is what I would love to see, and it would be beautiful and an incredible instrument
CU 24, 2 versions.
Fatback hog body with the biggest neck possible.
IR neck with ebony or blackwood board, birds.
Trem, uncovered DGT pickups, hybrid hardware
3 way toggle, pull up volume to split coils, no tone control--sweet switch.
One version is all mahogany body painted black or gold.
Second version has a flame top in old school colors like teal black, vintage yellow, emerald, whale blue
This would be one hell of a performance guitar, and a tone monster. Just put a unique Forum truss rod cover on it and be done. 2 runs of 10 each, for 20 total guitars. None of this would be PS stuff. There would never be anything else out there like it again
CU 24, 2 versions.
Fatback hog body with the biggest neck possible.
IR neck with ebony or blackwood board, birds.
Trem, uncovered DGT pickups, hybrid hardware
3 way toggle, pull up volume to split coils, no tone control--sweet switch.
One version is all mahogany body painted black or gold.
Second version has a flame top in old school colors like teal black, vintage yellow, emerald, whale blue
This would be one hell of a performance guitar, and a tone monster. Just put a unique Forum truss rod cover on it and be done. 2 runs of 10 each, for 20 total guitars. None of this would be PS stuff. There would never be anything else out there like it again
bodia
Authorities said.....best leave it.....unsolved
Bill, thanks for giving it a shot.
ummmmm.....
Almost ALL those changes to the CU24 base model push that guitar into PS territory.
I renamed this thread well...
