Custom 50 2-Channel Questions

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  1. mapleleaf14

    mapleleaf14 New Member

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    I just bought a new Custom 50 2-channel C.A.D. Head and inside the bag that had the footswitch cable, power cord, warranty card, and safety instructions, I didn't see any kind of actual "owners manual"...should there be one?

    Is there an online resource? I checked the support/Amplifier Manuals section of the PRS website, but there's not one listed specifically for the Custom 50.



    Also, when I want to play quietly at home with it, is there any negatives to doing the "jumper" technique with a patch cable in the effects loop and adjusting the effects loop levels to lower the volume?!?

    I probably won't need to do that much, but I was just wondering.



    So, anybody else out there have one of these amps?
     
  2. cyclops

    cyclops New Member

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    Bought one of the first ones. Love it! I'm more of a Marshall type of guy, so I switched the tubes out to EL34s. It does kill a *bit* of the shimmer of the clean channel, but it certainly warms up the crunch side. Before the switch, I wasn't really digging the distortion sound, it was either too bright or it didn't feel like it had enough drive. The 34's seem to help the crunch out a bit. Was listening to a video of a gig I did where the tubes were changed. 57/08s into it was really great sound. Too bad my playing was a bit off, or I'd post the video :)

    I did have one problem, there was a weird ground issue with the reverb knob. PRS fixed it under warranty, shipped it both ways. I'm VERY happy!
     
  3. jfb

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    I also feel like I'd want to change it to EL34. Which means ordering it that way cause I'm no tinkerer.
     
  4. Em7

    Em7 deus ex machina

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    It's a simple swap and re-bias job.
     
  5. jfb

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    I could handle that.
     
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    vchizzle Birdman.

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    That's cool, would be seemingly easy with external bias pots/test points.
     
  7. mapleleaf14

    mapleleaf14 New Member

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    My last few heads have been EL34 so I'm enjoying the change.

    So nobody has any experience or thoughts about the jumper technique with the effects loop?
     
  8. vchizzle

    vchizzle Birdman.

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    I know a lot of guys will use volume pedal in the loop. What you're talking about accomplishes the same thing, right? I seem to remember Paul himself talking about doing what what you're saying, but I'm not 100%. Not sure why it would hurt anything.
     
  9. mapleleaf14

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    Yeah, my dealer said its basically an option for playing lower volume at home - lower the volume via the loop instead of the volume/master.

    Like I said, not sure how often I'd need that option, but good to know in case.
     
  10. alantig

    alantig Santana-free since '63!

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    Not sure about the CAD, but I recall with the 2-channel C that the "sweet spot" on the effects loop volume controls was about 2:00. Other than that...I'm not an amp expert, so I've got nothing other than that.
     
  11. Em7

    Em7 deus ex machina

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    The 2-Channel "C" has a post-phase inverter master volume; therefore, the loop is before the master volume (the early 2-Channel "H" amps also had post-phase inverter master volumes). I could be wrong, but I believe that the loop is after the master volume on the 2-channel Custom.
     
  12. cyclops

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    For some reason, I thought the effect loop volume on the new amps worked whether there was a cable in it or not? Wasn't there a video demonstrating that effect by PRS himself?
     
  13. WEDGE

    WEDGE Almost was a FG22 owner..

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  14. LSchefman

    LSchefman Hears Tones

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    As to the owners manual questions, the HX/DA didn't come with a manual either. Might just be how the CAD amps roll.

    So to learn how to use it, I just watched Paul Smith walking us through the demo on the website video.

    I figured that when the time comes to change/rebias tubes I'll give PRS a call to find out the recommended settings.
     
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  15. mapleleaf14

    mapleleaf14 New Member

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    Yeah, don't really need a manual, but thought if I should have one with it, I'd as PRS for it.

    Seems like you need a "jumper" cable in the loop for the volumes to work. No biggie, I'm getting some SWEET sounds from the amp...it's really an impressive piece of equipment.
     
  16. jfb

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    I agree those videos are a great way to hear and see how to set up those amps.

    I think they H's and Customs are insane values.
     
  17. mapleleaf14

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    Absolutely! Some of my recent amps include a Boogie Mark V, a Boogie Royal Atlantic, an Orange Rockerverb 50, and an Egnater Tour Master and I like the Custom 50 better than any of them. Before the PRS, I think the Royal Atlantic was my favorite...fantastic clean channel and reverb.

    I hope they are doing well for PRS. Everybody that owns one seems to really like them, but you don't come across very many people that have them! I tried an SE30 combo and an SE20 head into my Boogie 212 and didn't really care for either of them and I hope people don't hear the SE line of amps and assume the USA amps are similar. The SE Line is far more readily available (at least around me) and I know more people are hearing those over the USA amps. The SE's aren't bad, but they're nowhere near what the USA's are! My dealer got the one in that I bought and I demoed it on his recommendation and I'm glad I did, because I absolutely love my Custom 50 2-Channel!
     
  18. RcRogers

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    I JUST took delivery of my 2x12 Stealth Cab (Paisley)! I'm excited because my 2 Channel Custom 50 (Paisley) has been sitting in my living room for a month, patiently awaiting the arrival of my PRS Cab :) Just have to finish out my work day and I will be hooking up the rig tonight. Last year I bought & sold a 2 Channel H. It was great but didn't have as much gain as I desired. Hoping the Custom 50 fits the bill!
     
  19. dadoffive

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    When I took ownership of my prototype, I emailed Matt at Customer Service for "care and feeding" instructions... He was very helpful with tube and bias setting info.

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