85/15 "S" pickups?

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  1. george7117

    george7117 New Member

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    Anyone had any experience or care to comment on the new 85/15 S pickups? I'm looking at a S2 with these and was wondering what they sound like/how close to regular 85/15s? Any help would be great. Thanks.
     
  2. Basauri

    Basauri Diamonds x Guitars deal with Paul

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    I have no experience with core 85/15s but I have korean 85/15 S in my SE custom 24 and don´t like them very much. They sound ok, good output and well balanced tone, but they are a little harsh to my ears. They break up easily and rolling down the volume they don´t clean up as nicely as my other pickups. Obviously, I´m comparing apples and oranges because here we´re talking about regular korean pickups, and my references are 57/08s, 245s, modded Gibson Burstbuckers, BKP Mules... top notch pickups.
     
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    Ovibos No, YOU'RE a New Member!

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    I'll take em off your hands.
     
  4. umo

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    Have you ever tried the PRS Tone Furnace pickups which used to be on the PRS SE Custom 22 when it still had a hardtail bridge?
     
  5. Basauri

    Basauri Diamonds x Guitars deal with Paul

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    No, I haven't.
    Are they better or worse than 85/15 Ss?
     
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    I haven't tried the 85/15 S's yet. Been trying to find a place but nothing close by just yet. I tried the Tone Furnace pickups though and they were pretty good

    I just asked because I was trying to gauge if the 85/15 S cleaned up about as well as the Tone Furnace or not and possibly how well they handled heavy distortion.

    I tried the Tone Furnace pickups and they handled heavy distortion just as good as some other hard rock/heavy metal pickups from other brands like the Seymour Duncan Invaders or EMG 81 pickups. Easy to shred, play big chords, and legato all around. They also managed to clean up much better when rolling off from the volume knob as well, and I had the amp going pretty high on gain.

    How do you find the sustain on the 85/15 S pickups?
     
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    2017 PRS SE Guitar Demo Review w/ Tom Quayle


    2017 PRS CE 24 Electric Guitar Demo Review with Tom Quayle


    Same player, same rig.

    I think comparing the 85/15 S on an SE Custom 24 to the 85/15 on the CE Custom 24 might be the most accurate way to compare as they are the most similar models.

    85/15 S video at 6:20

    85/15 video at 4:10

    Also, watch out for which pickup is being used when Tom is playing certain parts. He starts with the bridge pickup for distortion in the CE 24 video and he starts with the neck pickup in the SE 24 video so make sure its right pickup when comparing.

    And the CE 24 video is louder for me on the max volume compared to the SE 24 video so try balancing them out otherwise the CE 24 might sound 'better' by virtue of volume.

    I think the 85/15 sound a little brighter with more presence, and punch which cuts through a bit more.

    The 85/15 S sound a bit darker and warmer but overall 'voicing' is really similar.

    There are also these two videos from PRS

    SE Custom 24 vs. SE Custom 22


    The PRS Custom 24 vs Custom 22 | PRS Guitars


    I don't think the rig is the same but same player and two selections of guitars with similar specs and the two pickups to compare.
     
  8. garrett

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    Keep in mind that part of how the pickups clean up is due to the guitar's electronics. On the SE you have generic but decent Alpha pots with no treble bleed vs. CE and Core (generally) have PRS spec CTS pots with 180pf treble bleed cap.
     
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    Basauri Diamonds x Guitars deal with Paul

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    I think this is the key. As I said before, my references are PAF based pickups and blues tones. 85/15 S are more in the gain ballpark and probably that's the reason I don't like them very much.
    As "modern" pickups I find them more transparent and balanced than, for example, the Gibson 496R/500T set.
    They sustain ok, I have noticed neither lack of it nor an extraordinary sustain. Regular.
     
  10. umo

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    Gotcha. I have been moving more towards warmer fatter tones and less distortion these days. Trying to avoid that bitey, super treble-y, 'shrill'-ness on the high end. Good to know they are more balanced and transparent tone wise though. I gotta check out some of the other sets you mentioned as well.

    The PRS videos showcasing them always mentioned that the high end wasn't too shrill or ice-picky so I really wanted to put them through their paces. Especially since they are in almost every guitar from the S2 and SE range.
     
  11. Basauri

    Basauri Diamonds x Guitars deal with Paul

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    Thinking about it, IIRC my 85/15 S's measured something near 7.9k and 8.5k
    That's why I thought that they were classic or vintage pickups but they aren't in spite of not having that high gain pickup usual DC resistance
     
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    I have the PRS S2 Custom 24 guitar. I compared these pickups to the ones on my Gibson Les Paul, which are Seymour Duncan, Antiquity, humbucker. Playing through a Fender Twin Reverb and pulling out the tone control knob, I find I get a better sound with the PRS pickups. They sound brighter than the Antiquity, which I used to love until I heard these. I think it depends on the amp and setting you are using that makes the difference.
     

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