Dancing Frog said:Yeah, it is. But, couldn't knowing all this information possibly compromise trade secrets that PRS is protecting?
I just can't let you wallow in misery. The closest I can come up with is an Experience 408 semi-hollow for comparison.Why are you writing all that @Dancing Frog ? Might make me want to try a 509, but I wanna be disappointed the 513 is gone
Do you by any chance have a comparison of the SC Mode of the 509 and a Brushstroke 24 (or Paul's Guitar, they both have the narrow Version of the 408 PU's)?
And you know, if you say they're all different it'll make me wanna try the 509
Yeah, but what's behind the tape? That's the secret zone. The basic structure of the pick up was published in Guitar Player in 2005 or so. And, please do not pull back the tape, I don't want someone screwing up their 513 to satisfy my curiosity. I've waited over 10 years already, and I don't have to know.I dismounted my pups last year. A few pics of the pickups could be found here.
Got the 513 today!!! OMG, that thing plays like butter straight outta the box! Played it for over an hour before my nephew's basketball game. Ran it through my Helix into FRFR and it sang like a bird and bit like a snake when I wanted it to.
I can't wait to crank it into some tube amps over the weekend! Wow, this guitar is so unique sounding!
Why are you writing all that @Dancing Frog ? Might make me want to try a 509, but I wanna be disappointed the 513 is gone
Do you by any chance have a comparison of the SC Mode of the 509 and a Brushstroke 24 (or Paul's Guitar, they both have the narrow Version of the 408 PU's)?
And you know, if you say they're all different it'll make me wanna try the 509
So I have a 513 and a 408 and a Brushstroke 24
Heres my take
Brushstroke 24 - fairly low output ( think 57/08 ish ) but great projection Split or Bucker Great at gain work and KILLER clean of with just a taste of OD
408 - Just a bit more bigger Bucker tones and bigger split tones all around a bit fuller in the neck position because of the 22 fret neck ( and mine is crackwood )
513 - Just has a few extra gears so to speak with the center single coil and the full bucker mode ( my ) 513 is a bit more compressed sounding ( in a good way ) than the 408 style pickups
Just guessing:I have to ask myself why a person would go for a 509 over a 513 ?
So I have a 513 and a 408 and a Brushstroke 24
Heres my take
Brushstroke 24 - fairly low output ( think 57/08 ish ) but great projection Split or Bucker Great at gain work and KILLER clean of with just a taste of OD
408 - Just a bit more bigger Bucker tones and bigger split tones all around a bit fuller in the neck position because of the 22 fret neck ( and mine is crackwood )
513 - Just has a few extra gears so to speak with the center single coil and the full bucker mode ( my ) 513 is a bit more compressed sounding ( in a good way ) than the 408 style pickups
Firstly I make no apology for resurrecting the 513 thread. Along with the Paul's Guitar, it seems to be a model largely overlooked by guitarists and even PRS afficianados ? Is it because of the proprietary pickups, because any PRS lover / potential buyer who doesn't give these models (& 408) a decent audition is cheating themselves out some of PRSZ finest and most versatile instruments........Tone Nirvana ! Glide-bmp.....Stunning example, congrats. I assume the Honeymoon is nowhere near over. You nailed it 513 pickups, is there anything they can't do...... .clean, crunch and "active" levels of nastiness. I love em.........If they really are done (discontinued) I may have to find another one. I have to ask myself why a person would go for a 509 over a 513 ? If anything Mr Smith should have developed a 520 !
This is my fav 513 vid ! These Music Force musicians have uploaded some seriously good vids of many of our beloved PRS and other high end guitars, check em out.
Nice video - lovely tone on that.
I went through a phase where the 513 was my favourite guitar, so I certainly have an appreciation for them. I think that they are not very popular for 3 reasons:
1) People seem to think they are too complicated - they aren't, it's just a Strat with a 'thickening' switch.
2) The proprietary pickups put some off as there is no option to change in the future. May also affect resale value
3) The reason that I moved on from the 513 is that whilst it is one of the best all rounder guitars out there, you can get better SC tones from a Strat type guitar and better HB tones from a true HB guitar. There's not much that covers the whole range so well though, as that video demonstrates.
Don't know what it has now, but in the beginning it was neither. It had taller frets that were dressed to have a flatter crown than the standard PRS frets. Maybe, someone who has a 25th Anniversary or later 513 will chime in. That's when everything changed. The unique neck carve, inlays, and the scalloped nut went away. I just don't have any that post date the 25th Anniversary to verify whether that changed too.Does the 513 have the "Jumbo" fret size or the standard PRS fret size?