1985 Pickups stamped '7' and '8'

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I'm looking to add a 1985 to the herd and the guitar I'm looking at has '7' and '8' stamped on the pickups instead of 'T' and 'B'. The owner believes these are the original pickups and all electrics look unmolested. He suggested that at times the 'T' and 'B' wore down on the stamping machine and they used '7' and '8' instead. Anyone else came across this?
 
Man....I missed all the fun sh!t

Not really. It wasn't all it's cracked up to be. It mostly consisted of Sergio doing Jan Hammer noises into an ET Big Gulp cup (for ambience) while Hans worked a stained Ernie puppet with a pasted-on mustache while just repeating "Crockett! Tubbs! My office!" in a hoarse voice.
 
Not really. It wasn't all it's cracked up to be. It mostly consisted of Sergio doing Jan Hammer noises into an ET Big Gulp cup (for ambience) while Hans worked a stained Ernie puppet with a pasted-on mustache while just repeating "Crockett! Tubbs! My office!" in a hoarse voice.

See, I'd pay money for that. Not good money, but money.
 
I'm looking to add a 1985 to the herd and the guitar I'm looking at has '7' and '8' stamped on the pickups instead of 'T' and 'B'. The owner believes these are the original pickups and all electrics look unmolested. He suggested that at times the 'T' and 'B' wore down on the stamping machine and they used '7' and '8' instead. Anyone else came across this?

I've had one very early factory 1985 with 7 and 8 pickups in it and another with T and Bs. I've seen a few other guitars online with 7 and 8 pickups - all have been under serial 5 0050. So anything under serial 5 0050 I'd expect 7 and 8s or possibly a mix of a very early T or B with an opposing 7 or 8. I'd be pleased to see a 7 or 8 in anything much after 5 0050 as they're pretty rare. I doubt many 7 or 8s appear after serial number 100.

The very early T & Bs are identical to the 7 and 8s and differ from slightly later T & Bs in that they don't have the blob of solder visible on the base-plate. You start seeing T and Bs with solder on the baseplate around serial 5 0150. The solder-free baseplates are mostly gone by around serial 200 based on the imperfect sample I've seen either in person or on the internet. Most 1985 guitars won't have 7 or 8s or the very first version of T and B pickups.

Although 7 and 8s in early guitars are legit I don't believe the T and B stamps wore out as you only see 7 and 8s on the very earliest guitars. I think the stamping shop either misread the production drawings (which I guess were hand drawn / badly written) or didn't have a T and B stamp (but did have a 7 and 8 stamp) and made the initial batch of baseplates using 7 in stead of T and 8 in place of B.

Hope that's of some help.

A "8" pickup (early 1985 guitar) - no solder on baseplate
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A very early "B" pickup (early 1985 guitar) - no solder on baseplate
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Slightly later B (early 1986 guitar) - solder on baseplate
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